My new bingo XTR 120

[Dave Schofield]

Well, picked up my New Xtr this week, i will try get some pics up just as soon as it stops raining....could be a week..hahahaha,
I ordered it with white paint, modutop forward sensors, rear sensors and Camera. all road pack, tinted windows, 7 inch infotainment system, full mirror and window control ( some dont have, not sure why? ) cruise control and limiter and blue hdi 120 s&s manual box.
Up to now ive only got 160 miles on the clock and its already getting 47.9mpg overall and rising, i will be taking everything easy until its run in, but i can already tell the engine has a lot more pull than my previous xtr 90 which could only get a max 45mpg overall from.
The suspension is much firmer and higher, the 6 speed box has a better feel and slightly shorter throw than the 5, clutch feels lighter but power steering feels heavier but more precise.
The infotainment system can be a pain in the butt, i was looking forward to using the mirror link system but upto now its very limited and hard and inconsistant in use, i watched it being used with the apple car play, which looked very good, i suppose the system must favour the apple system ( no surprise there. ), may get an iphone?
I also miss the lack of cd player, not everyone has their music in mp3 format?
Overall though im loving it, much improved build quality also. ?

[Dave Schofield]

Lol, you dont pay extra for the raised suspension, thats included, though i do go to a lot of places/venues where extra ground clearance is a real bonus.

Anyhow, its still hissing down, plaque of frogs, biblical rain weather, cant wait for our 1 day of summer hahaha.

[andylobb]

I have had mine since mid June, have posted on general chat about it. Loving it. So far 2500 miles, lots to get used to but all good. Averaging 53mpg on long runs, mostly motorways at 70 mph ish. Quieter than my previous one thanks to, I think to the smaller mirrors. I use my phone for music or simply the radio as have the sat nav with live updates. Considering getting a basic iPod or simply a USB stick to load all my music on, but not very good with that sort of thing, need a 12yr old to help me with the teckie side lol. A great car for what I need. As I said, why didn't they give us a 6 speed years ago?

[andylobb]

Sorry, smaller than my old 11 plate Partner, they changed the mirror on the face lift, but I could be wrong. I think the latest generation ones have been made smaller and more streamlined,?

[iamtoo]

I also miss the lack of cd player, not everyone has their music in mp3 format?

Creating MP3s from CDs is simple. There are a hundreds of apps which you can use to do it. I recently ripped my 350 plus CD collection, which took just over half the space on a 32Gb MicroSD card. I still have to pinch myself that the whole collection now resides in the mobile 'phone in my pocket.

It must have stopped raining by now, where are these photos you promised?

[Dave Schofield]

I have no problem with tech, ive got a 8gb stick already filled, but mp3 just hasnt got the sound quality of wave.
Pictures are on hold at the moment, as im on away holiday for 2 weeks. She has done jst over 1000 miles and is gettting around 55mpg overall.

[iamtoo]

She has done jst over 1000 miles and is gettting around 55mpg overall.

That sounds pretty good, once she loosens-up a bit you could hope for a little more.

It's a shame that fuel economy hasn't managed to increase over the decades in the same way as some other performance figures. By way of comparison another famous Citroën car, the 2CV, had a design brief to achieve 78 MPG. I'm not sure it ever achieved that figure but it probably wasn't that far off.

Obviously, modern cars are much safer, have loads of electrical gadgets and are far more comfy but still a little disappointing.

I also think the Bingo is a spiritual successor to the 2CV.

[iamtoo]

The 2CV weighed a fraction of a Berlingo though, and you'd probably have died if you'd crashed it.

Sure, but the 2CV was designed pre-WWII and in all that time MPG figures have moved about... zilch. Car safety, comfort and other performance figures have moved on significantly but not fuel consumption.

One of the attractions of the Bingo is its versatility: passenger carrying, load carrying, wheelchair conversion, towing, roof bars etc. The Bingo can do all of these things while returning a decent fuel consumption compared to most other vehicles. However, a Bingo with all the advantages of ECUs, fuel injection, better streamlining (compared to vans in previous decades) etc. doesn't return better MPG than a 2CV.

In comparison a Bingo has a top speed nearly double that of a 2CV and a 0-60 MPH at least twice as quick.