Haynes Manual B mk2

[greenhouse]

I have had an email from Haynes that the Manual for the Berlingo Mk2, 05 - 08 will not be published till "November or December"



Grrrr! It was supposed to be out on 29 Aug.

[pk7478]

All manuals here:
http://www.berlingoforum.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=12

Why do you need Haynes? Not enough dealers' documentation?

[ron]

I have had an email from Haynes that the Manual for the Berlingo Mk2, 05 - 08 will not be published till "November or December"



Grrrr! It was supposed to be out on 29 Aug.

I had an e mail from Haynes last year stating they had NO intention to publish a mk 2 manual.Their publicity dept is as accurate as their books.

[greenhouse]

All manuals here:
http://www.berlingoforum.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=12

Why do you need Haynes? Not enough dealers' documentation?

Sorry if I have trodden on any toes, here. The Resource Centre link is fine, and gives good techy info on all sorts minor repairs and maintenance.


Except that in the article on replacing the front pads, there is no mention of the spring clips which locate the pads to the caliper, and no mention in the OP about using copper grease or similar to lubricate the pins which hold the caliper to the brake frame, no mention of checking the rubber boots to the pins, or the conditions under which the two small bolts supplied in the brake pad kit should be used (presumably if one managles a head taking them out ?)


I am not knocking the value of the Resource Centre, but given the amount of expertise on here, it should be accurate down to the tiniest detail.

Added to which, not being a mechanic (a farmer in real life) I want to read up on paper what is needed before I go out armed with my agricultural sledge hammer.


What I would really like is the maker's workshop manual on CD.

[pk7478]

Hmm....

You're very strange guy. All who read dealers documentation were very happy. Only you do not like this

Where did you read about greasing of calipers' pins by copper grease? May be for tractors it's actual, but for Berlingo this is inapplicable!!!
If you want to replace front brake pads and pins, go to dealer and by original spareparts: brake pad kit and calipers' pins kit.
After when you unpack these kits and will see parts, you will understand all.
BERLINGO IS VERY SIMPLE CAR! It's not VAG or BMW or MB
I know, you can say that it is very expensive, etc... This will means that you did not visit a dealer by different reasons.
Especially for you I publish a spareparts for front brakes:

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[tanto]

I contacted Haynes a couple of months ago and they said they do have a manual for the Mk 2 in the pipeline but could not give any idea on timescale of publication. I was told they would email me as and when the manual was to be released. As of yet, I have not heard any more. Wont hold my breath!!

[pk7478]

I have it in English. Who need it?

[BlueBlingo]

All manuals here:
http://www.berlingoforum.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=12

Why do you need Haynes? Not enough dealers' documentation?

greenhouse wrote:
Sorry if I have trodden on any toes, here. The Resource Centre link is fine, and gives good techy info on all sorts minor repairs and maintenance.


Except that in the article on replacing the front pads, there is no mention of the spring clips which locate the pads to the caliper, and no mention in the OP about using copper grease or similar to lubricate the pins which hold the caliper to the brake frame, no mention of checking the rubber boots to the pins, or the conditions under which the two small bolts supplied in the brake pad kit should be used (presumably if one managles a head taking them out ?)


I am not knocking the value of the Resource Centre, but given the amount of expertise on here, it should be accurate down to the tiniest detail.

Added to which, not being a mechanic (a farmer in real life) I want to read up on paper what is needed before I go out armed with my agricultural sledge hammer.


What I would really like is the maker's workshop manual on CD.

The Resource centre gives good information on both minor & MAJOR repairs if you can be bothered to read it !

A lot of this information kindly provided by PK

"Gaiters" which are mentioned in the OP are "rubber boots" so please read as you would put it the "tiniest detail"
As regards Copper Grease -using this depends on where you live (Environment Laws /Climate).
You would not use copper grease on an aluminium cylinder head would you ?
The spring clips will generally only locate in the correct position !
Unless you use a big hammer to reassemble the brake assembly!
Same applies for the small bolts.

As regards any "Haynes Manual" for post 1996 vehicles in my opinion they are about as much use as a chocolate fireguard !

[andy-womble]

Sorry if I have trodden on any toes, here. The Resource Centre link is fine, and gives good techy info on all sorts minor repairs and maintenance.


I am not knocking the value of the Resource Centre, but given the amount of expertise on here, it should be accurate down to the tiniest detail.

Added to which, not being a mechanic (a farmer in real life) I want to read up on paper what is needed before I go out armed with my agricultural sledge hammer.


What I would really like is the maker's workshop manual on CD.

You want jam on it ??????

The majority of subscribers on here in cyber-land are not professional mechanics either and would probably be described as "Enthusiastic Amateurs", however and whatever, they give of their time, opinions and information freely. We must respect each other for doing that, but at the same time, nobody is perfect and no-one can be held responsible for somebody else's mistakes or misinterpretation of information, this holds for what is included or inadvertantly left out.
To expect "The ins and outs of Meg's Arshole" as the expression goes, is a bit beyond the remit of this forum me-thinks

You want the whole shooting match, chapter and verse then perhaps you had better source the manufacturer's manual and try and make sense of it, if such a document is available outside of fortress Citroen...

[greenhouse]

"but at the same time, nobody is perfect and no-one can be held responsible for somebody else's mistakes or misinterpretation of information, this holds for what is included or inadvertantly left out."

OK, there is a mass of wonderful information on this forum, short cuts, new ideas, additions, LEDs, squeak tracking, you name it.

But if someone puts forward what is suppose to be the "right" answer, then it should be 100% right. You can't hide behind an exculpatory sentence like the quotation.

If you took a vehicle into the dealer, would you sign up for a service, if the guy behind the counter says "We'll do our best, but don't blame us if we only get it 99% right " ?


I joined up because this seemed to be the best Berlingo forum, and I am not going to walk out because you don't like me picking up errors. The answer is simple, you don't deliver 99% at work, so don't deliver 99% here.

Brakes are kind of mission critical, and omitting the metal clips (one would have to be very stupid to do so after dismantling them while taking the old pads out anyway) will lead to brake failure.

I hope I have made my point, and hope to be able to contribute positively to the occasional thread in future.