|
Slow starter (diesel)
|
Posts: 68
Threads: 10
Thanks Received: 4 in 4 posts
Thanks Given: 21
Joined: Jun 2011
Location:
Reputation:
0
The cold weather has shown that my diesel doesn't like starting... Now, it's recently had a new fuel filter, bled up properly and no water in the fuel, and once it's warm it'll start again no problem with a smooth tickover, but when it first fires up (usually taking at least four cycles with the glow plugs) it'll only run on two or three cylinders, with a subsequent stealthy smoke screen to hide me from my nosey neighbours. It'll start running on all four from about 10mph...
So, I'm guessing that it's a dodgy glow-plug or two. Anyone concur? Are they easy to test / swap?
•
Posts: 18
Threads: 2
Thanks Received: 3 in 3 posts
Thanks Given: 6
Joined: Oct 2010
Location:
Reputation:
0
Hi again, it's me, V man. The last time I started mine it was the same as yours. I have here 4 X glow plugs which I carried as spares in my Romahome (1998 1.9D XUD). They became wet thanks to a fresh water pump leak. They are now dry but a bit rusty. I started to clean one up when I read your post and the future looks good. You can have them for nowt if you want and I can finish cleaning them up with the mini tool or send them right away if I have the required details.I'm expecting my Blingo to behave when/if the weather warms up. Right now I need to get out for some shopping before the snow arrives. Delighted that you seem to have cured the rad problem.
Posts: 2,835
Threads: 67
Thanks Received: 717 in 614 posts
Thanks Given: 237
Joined: Aug 2012
Location: Wales
Reputation:
50
(12-01-2017, 12:06 PM)zedhead Wrote: .....I'm guessing that it's a dodgy glow-plug or two. Anyone concur?
.... Are they easy to test / swap?
Possibly yes but often they are good and it is the valve clearances that need adjusting ( do a forum search ) so don't assume and spend before testing - up to you of course.
Yes easy to test and swap.
2007 M59 1.6 HDi
Serieal Berlingo owner
The following 1 user says Thank You to geoff for this post:1 user says Thank You to geoff for this post
• zedhead
Posts: 1,773
Threads: 9
Thanks Received: 442 in 403 posts
Thanks Given: 316
Joined: May 2012
Location: brum
Reputation:
15
If its a 1.9 i would go for glow plugs first, easy job, make sure you get some decent ones say Bosh or Beru - dont use ebay - not for glow plugs!
If that doesn't sort it and i suspect it will see what geoff says ^^
The following 1 user says Thank You to polar for this post:1 user says Thank You to polar for this post
• zedhead
Posts: 137
Threads: 6
Thanks Received: 23 in 21 posts
Thanks Given: 0
Joined: Dec 2012
Location: somerset
Reputation:
1
(12-01-2017, 02:39 PM)polar Wrote: If its a 1.9 i would go for glow plugs first, easy job, make sure you get some decent ones say Bosh or Beru - dont use ebay - not for glow plugs!
If that doesn't sort it and i suspect it will see what geoff says ^^
you may find one glow plug is hidden behind other stuff , like injector pipes or pump, but 3 new ones is usually enough.
i usually wedge a bit of rag or kitchen towel beneath the plugs to catch the wee nuts when they get dropped, putting the nuts on the hard to get at plug is easy if you slid the nut down a thin screwdriver with point resting on top of the thread.
The following 1 user says Thank You to ricc for this post:1 user says Thank You to ricc for this post
• zedhead
Posts: 1,773
Threads: 9
Thanks Received: 442 in 403 posts
Thanks Given: 316
Joined: May 2012
Location: brum
Reputation:
15
(13-01-2017, 04:47 PM)ricc Wrote: (12-01-2017, 02:39 PM)polar Wrote: If its a 1.9 i would go for glow plugs first, easy job, make sure you get some decent ones say Bosh or Beru - dont use ebay - not for glow plugs!
If that doesn't sort it and i suspect it will see what geoff says ^^
you may find one glow plug is hidden behind other stuff , like injector pipes or pump, but 3 new ones is usually enough.
i usually wedge a bit of rag or kitchen towel beneath the plugs to catch the wee nuts when they get dropped, putting the nuts on the hard to get at plug is easy if you slid the nut down a thin screwdriver with point resting on top of the thread.
Like i said easy job ;-)
•
Posts: 137
Threads: 6
Thanks Received: 23 in 21 posts
Thanks Given: 0
Joined: Dec 2012
Location: somerset
Reputation:
1
been under the berlingo bonnet this morning .... dissregard the bit above about injector pipes in the way ... that was the boys pug 306.... on the berlingo its the intake manifold goes over the lot.... some funny hose clips to undo but not too bad .
The following 1 user says Thank You to ricc for this post:1 user says Thank You to ricc for this post
• zedhead
Posts: 83
Threads: 1
Thanks Received: 19 in 14 posts
Thanks Given: 10
Joined: Jul 2011
Location:
Reputation:
0
(12-01-2017, 02:03 PM)geoff Wrote: (12-01-2017, 12:06 PM)zedhead Wrote: .....I'm guessing that it's a dodgy glow-plug or two. Anyone concur?
.... Are they easy to test / swap?
Possibly yes but often they are good and it is the valve clearances that need adjusting ( do a forum search ) so don't assume and spend before testing - up to you of course.
Yes easy to test and swap.
i cant get my head around it being the valves,if a valve wasnt closed why would it start ok the rest of the day,if a valve wasnt closed it would misfire when running,performance would be compromised.Am i missing something ?
•
Posts: 2,835
Threads: 67
Thanks Received: 717 in 614 posts
Thanks Given: 237
Joined: Aug 2012
Location: Wales
Reputation:
50
15-01-2017, 05:18 PM
(This post was last modified: 15-01-2017, 05:20 PM by geoff.)
Trust me it is a common feature of the 1.9D .... the inlet valves close up due to seat recession, the engine struggles on first start up of the day and then no problem all day regardless until the next morning - in cold weather of course ! The owners say it runs great all Summer but won't start in Winter.
Straightforward to check ( download the Haynes Manual from the Forum if needed ) and if the clearances are out then the ideal time is to combine it with a timing belt change as the camshaft needs to come out.
Have a search as one member kindly posted up the cost of the job when done at his local garage.
A number of people have done this at home without issue, myself included.
Edit : Naturally a check of glow plugs is done first - free when DIY and quick too !! I always advocate checking before spending !!!
2007 M59 1.6 HDi
Serieal Berlingo owner
The following 1 user says Thank You to geoff for this post:1 user says Thank You to geoff for this post
• lorraine
Posts: 68
Threads: 10
Thanks Received: 4 in 4 posts
Thanks Given: 21
Joined: Jun 2011
Location:
Reputation:
0
(12-01-2017, 01:17 PM)alive23512 Wrote: Hi again, it's me, V man. The last time I started mine it was the same as yours. I have here 4 X glow plugs which I carried as spares in my Romahome (1998 1.9D XUD). They became wet thanks to a fresh water pump leak. They are now dry but a bit rusty. I started to clean one up when I read your post and the future looks good. You can have them for nowt if you want and I can finish cleaning them up with the mini tool or send them right away if I have the required details.I'm expecting my Blingo to behave when/if the weather warms up. Right now I need to get out for some shopping before the snow arrives. Delighted that you seem to have cured the rad problem.
Thanks mate, although I've only just noticed this and have ordered some Bosch plugs from t'interwebs.
•
|
Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)
|
|
Welcome
|
You have to register before you can post on our site.
|
|
Recent Visitors
|
|
|
Hosting by
|

|
|