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difference in suspension
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Hiya all, I need to replaced the top mounts on the front struts but I have come across two part numbers..
 5038.93 ( without power steering )
 5038.62 ( with power steering )

  Does anyone know what the physical difference would be between these parts ? I have fitted a 5038.93 to my car which has power steering, but I didn't notice any difference with the one I changed it for except the brand. Although they were both genuine parts one had Kleiber as a brand and the other had very little written on it.

 What I want to know I suppose is, do I need to remove the strut and fit the correct part numbered item or is there no difference in the parts physically, they just wanted to charge different amounts of money so They gave the same part different part numbers..

 Any ideas ?
Black Hyundai i30 1.6CRDI 2011
Silver 1.9D Mutispace desire 2004 DW8B non Turbo..
White 1.9D Van 2005 DW8B non turbo..
Silver MGF 1.8 16v 1999
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#2
Any help on which top mount folks ??  I need to get the part ordered.
 Thanks
Black Hyundai i30 1.6CRDI 2011
Silver 1.9D Mutispace desire 2004 DW8B non Turbo..
White 1.9D Van 2005 DW8B non turbo..
Silver MGF 1.8 16v 1999
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#3
Have you tried entering vehicle details on somewhere like Euro Parts and see what options it comes up with for you vehicle. Might there be a difference in the castor/camber angle between the two steering types as the power steering may need 'stronger' self-centring, with a greater castor angle. The mounts will look the same , but the bolt hole positions relative to the strut centre may differ.
If this is the case and you have fitted the 'wrong' type then the tracking will be changed and also there will be a difference in handling between turning left and turning right.
Mind you, all the above could also be a load of bo**ocks and it doesn't matter at all.
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#4
HA HA.. Cheers Oilyrag, the perfect answer, just what I was expecting..

  I have been to Euro crap parts but they want to sell me a top mount for a Non power steer vehicle but my 'Lingo has power steering...

  I use a web site called 'Vehicle Parts Database.com' because there are s many comparisons to every part this web site will give you all the part numbers form a ll the different manufacturers. The trouble is that the Citroen part numbers listed as Berlingo don't always cross reference.. GGGRRRRR !! 

  It would be nice to find out the proper part number but I need access to Citroen Micro fisch or something... Does anyone have access to Citroen parts database ?
Black Hyundai i30 1.6CRDI 2011
Silver 1.9D Mutispace desire 2004 DW8B non Turbo..
White 1.9D Van 2005 DW8B non turbo..
Silver MGF 1.8 16v 1999
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(14-04-2017, 03:58 PM)ajcommercial Wrote:  HA HA.. Cheers Oilyrag, the perfect answer, just what I was expecting..

  I have been to Euro crap parts but they want to sell me a top mount for a Non power steer vehicle but my 'Lingo has power steering...

  I use a web site called 'Vehicle Parts Database.com' because there are s many comparisons to every part this web site will give you all the part numbers form a ll the different manufacturers. The trouble is that the Citroen part numbers listed as Berlingo don't always cross reference.. GGGRRRRR !! 

  It would be nice to find out the proper part number but I need access to Citroen Micro fisch or something... Does anyone have access to Citroen parts database ?


Ironically, Euro Crap Parts gave me the correct strut top bearings for my van, but the wrong coil springs! I'm a great believer in buying my parts from a Citroen main dealer now. The parts are little if any, more expensive to buy (sometimes cheaper), and I ALWAYS get the correct part for my van. My Citroen dealer also gives me a trade discount on bits, as he knows that I'm a self employed courier who does his own servicing and repairs. The way I see it is, when it comes to parts which your life may depend on, why try to save £5 here or there?
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(14-04-2017, 03:58 PM)ajcommercial Wrote:  ... It would be nice to find out the proper part number but I need access to Citroen Micro fisch or something... Does anyone have access to Citroen parts database ?

https://www.catcar.info/citroen/?lang=en&l=

Put your VIN in the "Search by VIN" box and off you go.

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My vehicle .... 2006 (m59) Berlingo Multispace Desire - 1.6 HDI 92 
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#7
I think I've worked it out...
 There is a locating pin that sticks up through the bodywork and on the non power steering the pin is pointing forward and on the power steering the pin is pointing towards the rear..

  Cheers for the link jj9 it works great, I have used it to pick up loads of part numbers that I have made a note of.. Still have to be careful though as there are different 'codes' which you will find on the label stuck to the inside of the drivers door pillar where the paint code is.. ( it's the OP code or something.. )
Black Hyundai i30 1.6CRDI 2011
Silver 1.9D Mutispace desire 2004 DW8B non Turbo..
White 1.9D Van 2005 DW8B non turbo..
Silver MGF 1.8 16v 1999
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