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Euro 6 Berlingo/Partner
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[Image: 21ePDbc]Just had one of these in with an issue, so thought I would share it with you.

Previously didn't know much about them, as they are all quite new so far & maintenance has just been servicing & topping up the ad blue.
This particular van has done about 150K miles as it's a courier van , it's a 65 plate , interestingly it's an EGS gearbox and so far hasn't had a clutch which is interesting / remarkable.
Van came to us following many dealer trips , which have been unsuccessful or very expensive, & I think the owner found us via this site, so thanks for that.
Seemed a straightforward repair, diagbox said "no communication with additive ecu".
This is quite a common fault on these vans, we have fitted several additive tanks in the past & they are quite expensive, around £300 if I remember.
TBH I didn't even realise that the adblue cars still have elloys as well, this makes it a pretty complex system & quite expensive to run in the long term, they seem to use about 1 litre of adblue per thousand miles, so will just go between 12 & 16k on a full tank of adblue.
Anyway we purchased a new additive tank, this come with no fittings at all or fluid £485 +vat. Apparently it's a different tank to the Euro 5 & diagbox , in fact pass through in this case shows it to have a different ecu number than the ordinary.
Any way we filled the tank fitted it to the car & programmed it all in on the Citroen site. Just for future reference, it took over 20 mins to bleed the elloys, we thought that there was a fault with the van, but apparently this is normal.
We even plugged the old tank in , and it was dead, hence proving it was knackered as we suspected. Soon as the new one was plugged in, off it went again. I was concerned it might burn it out, running so long, but eventually it primed up & all faults are gone.
So we have £485 for the tank, £100 to fit it & program, £30 of elloys(it had a bit left in the old tank) all + vat and €35 for 1 week of online PSA charge.
Quite an expensive job to say the least .
I took a few pics of the old tank so you can see what's in it, not much by my reckoning .
Hope I can get the pics to post up.

https://flic.kr/p/21ePDbc
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Tongue 
https://flic.kr/p/21uZZkE
https://flic.kr/p/22zKCRR
https://flic.kr/p/CWyG4i

Not sure how to post pics direct anymore, so this will have to do
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Hi Mark,

Thanks for the information, up until you posted I was convinced that adblue replaced eloys, didn't have a clue both were being fitted.

Sounds like the worst of all worlds !

It will keep the air police happy but God help those that have to pay for these horrible additions to the engine.

Mark

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Jesus Mark there are going to be some nightmares out there for these latest diesels! This guy has done the miles so its still worth having a diesel but for a lot of us its back to petrol or electric in the near future.

Many thanks for the info and top man for sorting out what the dealer couldnt or wouldnt without the guy taking a mortgage out :-(
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(17-12-2017, 01:21 PM)Satellitemark Wrote:  Hi Mark,

Thanks for the information, up until you posted I was convinced that adblue replaced eloys, didn't have a clue both were being fitted.

Sounds like the worst of all worlds !

It will keep the air police happy but God help those that have to pay for these horrible additions to the engine.

Mark

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same here, had no idea that they used both systems. They seem to have the regular cat & dpf up front just below the turbo & another large canister under the floor. The adblue is I jected in after the dpf on the downpipe before the second canister.
however looking at this very clear & simple video, it is the canister underneath that is the dpf .

https://youtu.be/mTCqjnmBtE8
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This tank looks exactly the same as the additive tank of my 2011 pug partner, that I topped not long ago. Did lexia also marked it as a 1L max volume with the full tank?
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(18-12-2017, 07:59 AM)Luis Rosa Wrote:  This tank looks exactly the same as the additive tank of my 2011 pug partner, that I topped not long ago. Did lexia also marked it as a 1L max volume with the full tank?

I think it is 1.6 litres, but definitely a different ecu inside, there is a Euro 5 version & Euro 6 on Diagbox
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Looking at that youtube vid. Wouldn’t life be so much simpler if that was just a metal pipe & a silencer box coming out of the back of that engine?  Big Grin
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