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The Condensation issue
#1
So a question to the more experienced campers, how are you guys dealing with condensation? Have you found a good enough solution to help reduce it or lesson it's impact?

Am I right in thinking it's more winter issue too.

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#2
Yep - it is more of a winter issue, because colder air absorbs less moisture than warmer air.
But that's not the whole story.

Humans (and animals) sleeping in a camper will give off moisture (sweat for men - perspiration for women!), and this has to go somewhere. It is usually evident in the mornings on hard, cold materials, particularly the glass as this is in direct contact with colder outside air. But it is also absorbed by any soft materials within the camper - such as seats, roof lining, clothing, and any other hygroscopic materials. It's made worse if you have a frig or electric coolbox, because these cool the air inside and give off water vapour.

Condensation can't be avoided, but it can be minimised by ventilation, and disguised by heat. If the camper is heated during the night, less condensation will be visible next morning, because the warmer inside air will be holding it in suspension. It's still there but it can't be seen so readily.

With good ventilation it can be reduced. My B9 camper has both front door windows cracked open at night (protected from rain by tinted window shields), and the tailgate is locked a couple of inches open along its bottom edge. Experimenting, I have found that air enters at the top of the front window gaps, travels along the roof lining and exits down the tailgate. I'm not disturbed by this air movement as it occurs above my body while I'm asleep, but it sure helps with any condensation.

See pics:
[Image: Blind_3.jpg]

[Image: Tailgate_1.jpg]
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#3
Cheers Gravity,
What is the coldest you've slept in you camper. I like your trick with the rear door, does that not let rain in.
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(15-09-2018, 02:55 PM)Gravity Wrote:  Yep - it is more of a winter issue, because colder air absorbs less moisture than warmer air.
But that's not the whole story.

Humans (and animals) sleeping in a camper will give off moisture (sweat for men - perspiration for women!), and this has to go somewhere. It is usually evident in the mornings on hard, cold materials, particularly the glass as this is in direct contact with colder outside air. But it is also absorbed by any soft materials within the camper - such as seats, roof lining, clothing, and any other hygroscopic materials. It's made worse if you have a frig or electric coolbox, because these cool the air inside and give off water vapour.

Condensation can't be avoided, but it can be minimised by ventilation, and disguised by heat. If the camper is heated during the night, less condensation will be visible next morning, because the warmer inside air will be holding it in suspension. It's still there but it can't be seen so readily.

With good ventilation it can be reduced. My B9 camper has both front door windows cracked open at night (protected from rain by tinted window shields), and the tailgate is locked a couple of inches open along its bottom edge. Experimenting, I have found that air enters at the top of the front window gaps, travels along the roof lining and exits down the tailgate. I'm not disturbed by this air movement as it occurs above my body while I'm asleep, but it sure helps with any condensation.

See pics:
[Image: Blind_3.jpg]

[Image: Tailgate_1.jpg]

A. Great explanation... Cool

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#5
I didnt know the tailgate could be locked in a open postion !
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(17-09-2018, 05:20 PM)old_skool Wrote:  I didnt know the tailgate could be locked in a open postion !

Ahh ... I've made an adaptor, which just slides into the normal latch and the tailgate simply closes onto it. Lockable.
Details on my camper thread. Works well.
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(17-09-2018, 06:16 PM)Gravity Wrote:  
(17-09-2018, 05:20 PM)old_skool Wrote:  I didnt know the tailgate could be locked in a open postion !

Ahh ... I've made an adaptor, which just slides into the normal latch and the tailgate simply closes onto it.  Lockable.
Details on my camper thread. Works well.

I use one of these jobbies - different brand but same design.
I have the shortest one which leaves just the right gap.
I leave a side hinged window open to it's limit but not the front door drop window as I'm not comfortable with that left partially open while I sleep.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/121962464789
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#8
And there's me thinking I'd invented the idea! Didn't know they existed until after I'd made mine.

My drivers/passengers side windows are wound down about 1", and from the outside the gap cannot be seen. The rain can't get in either, but when I left my rear side windows open a crack (M59) I found the rain could get in. So far, no rain has got in when I leave the tailgate locked slightly open - but there's bound to be a first time.

I tend to park up in wild spots (forests, drovers tracks etc) so the chances of burglary during the night are slim. Great for using nature when i need to also!
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#9
Would a fan in the roof help any?
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#10
I use plastic wind deflectors as used by others plus a very small 12 volt fan fitted into the partially open passenger window gap. The fan is fairly quiet & takes very little power. It reduces condensation significantly. I also leave one of the disposable dehumidifier pots inside the car & this clears residual moisture. If I’m staying on a site with electric hook up in winter I use a small electric fan heater overnight to keep toasty.
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