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[Steering & Suspension] Noise when turning
#1
Recently my 64 plate 1.6 xtr+ van has started making a whining noise (more like the noise you'd get when you blow in to an empty milk bottle) when turning. 

It is intermittent but starting to happen more frequently, I only notice it at slow speeds and it also happens if i take it out of gear and turn slowly but there is no noise if I turn the steering wheel when stationary.

Van has less than 20k miles on the clock and has not had a hard life.

Could it be the LSD? 

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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#2
It could be a lot of L.S.D. (£s) if its the front wheel bearing and you don't or cant do it yourself.
If the noise is different when turning left or right its the front w/bearings , if no or very little difference then it could be a back w/bearing.
The back ones are easy checked , just jack it up and spin the wheel , The front ones can make a noise but sometimes have no movement in the top to bottom axis when jacked up and shaken, or make a noise when turned by hand

PS what do you mean by LSD?
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(17-05-2019, 04:14 PM)brodfather11 Wrote:  It could be a lot of L.S.D. (£s) if its the front wheel bearing and you don't or cant do it yourself.
If the noise is different when turning left or right its the front w/bearings , if no or very little difference then it could be a back w/bearing.
The back ones are easy checked , just jack it up and spin the wheel , The front ones can make a noise but sometimes have no movement in the top to bottom axis when jacked up and shaken, or make a noise when turned by hand

PS what do you mean by LSD?

Hi

Thanks for the reply. The van was in for a service a couple of months back and I mentioned it then and the garage checked it out but annoyingly they said they could find nothing wrong however I am assuming/hoping they would have checked wheel bearings. I wouldn't have thought they would be the problem with so little miles? 

LSD Limited Slip Differential (it is on the front axle which is why I wondered if it could be it)
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#4
As you get no noise when the wheels are not turning then its either wheel bearings or the LSD.

The only time I came across a LSD was a trial BT was doing with a Morris Marina van (BT yellow colour era) for telephone engineers. It didn't last long but when it failed it wouldn't drive.
I don't know if it was making droning noises before it failed. They will be more dependable nowadays.

The only thing I can think is to jack it up and try for wear now that the noise is getting worse something may be more noticeable
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#5
Jack the front end completely in the air and spin a wheel with your hands. If you have LSD the wheels should both go in the same rotation. Did you buy it with LSD fitted or just assume it has one ?
PS if it's an open diff the wheels will go in opposite rotation.
So where does this bit go then ?
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(18-05-2019, 06:58 AM)ffrenchie Wrote:  Jack the front end completely in the air and spin a wheel with your hands. If you have LSD the wheels should both go in the same rotation. Did you buy it with LSD fitted or just assume it has one ?
PS if it's an open diff the wheels will go in opposite rotation.

This youtube video shows the same van as the one i have if that can explain it better -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDskXnoWTtM
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I had a similar issue with my van, it was fixed by changing back to Michelin energy saver tyres rather than the Bridgestones which I had tried.
Bridgestones were admittedly at the end of their life albeit well over legal limit, but the difference when changed was night and day.

Like you I was pondering more serious issues so was well happy with the result in the end.


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(18-05-2019, 07:47 AM)chrisl Wrote:  I had a similar issue with my van, it was fixed by changing back to Michelin energy saver tyres rather than the Bridgestones which I had tried.
Bridgestones were admittedly at the end of their life albeit well over legal limit, but the difference when changed was night and day.

Like you I was pondering more serious issues so was well happy with the result in the end.


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Strangely I have wondered if it could be the tyres in the past but have managed to convince myself it is something more serious but hearing that it helped you might be worthwhile trying  The tyres that are on still have a fair bit left on them, they are Goodyear Cargo Ultragrip 2 they came on the van when i bought it.
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I am on my third Berlingo , 136k,236k and latest 17plate has 167k on it. None have suffered gearbox failure ( main bugbear is the emissions crap)

IMO it’s unlikely that you have a gearbox issue unless there is a serious loss of oil?
Others may have different experience but I can only speak from mine.

All of my vans have run Michelin’s with no probs.
Hope you get it sorted.
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(18-05-2019, 08:25 AM)chrisl Wrote:  I am on my third Berlingo , 136k,236k and latest 17plate has 167k on it. None have suffered gearbox failure ( main bugbear is the emissions crap)

IMO it’s unlikely that you have a gearbox issue unless there is a serious loss of oil?
Others may have different experience but I can only speak from mine.

All of my vans have run Michelin’s with no probs.
Hope you get it sorted.
I was in the motor trade for years & never had a Citroen with transmission problems.
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