Modutop roof seal, 2006 Desire.

[markallen5]

Hello ,
 I have owned my first ever Berlingo for 6 days now. I love it, but do have a problem.
I have found 2 threads on this subject but both are quite old and I'm hoping that my problem isn't to do with the factory fault I've read about on one thread as it would mean I've wasted my money on a car that can't be fixed. 
 So the problem is that the outer rubber seal on the roof panel looks to have seen better days and at the front drivers side , the seal can actually be lifted up an inch or so. I assumed that a bit of sealer would do the job, but am now worried after reading about some of this model had a factory fault with a repair costing thousands.
  I haven't noticed any water as such getting in, but when driving for the first time, did notice condensation forming on some windows, so I assume some damp has got in between the roof and the inner trim. It did rain several inches last weekend before I bought the car.
 So can anyone tell me how to tell if my Berlingo has this factory fault ? It is 13 years old now and I would have thought if it was this, it would have happened a while ago. I don't know.
 If , it is just "old age" then what is the best way to fix it ? 
         I read on one thread to use washing machine sealant. Someone suggested windscreen sealant.
 I have just used some electrical tape to stop any water getting under the seal until I get more advice.
  Hoping someone can help,  Kind Regards, Mark.

[cancunia]

I used clear neutral cure silicone sealant on mine , I think that another method discussed was to use polyurethane sealant. The silicone method I used did not exactly bond to the rubber but it did stay in place and prevented water from sitting in the gap.

[markallen5]

Hi and Thanks for your advice.
I have ordered some specialist windscreen sealant and hope it will do the job.
One thing that came up on the thread about the factory fault was not to use the roof bars for anything heavy.
I had planned on carrying my 23kilo fishing kayak on my roof from time to time.
Just wondered if it would put any stress on the roof, leading to leaks.
We shall have to wait and see.  Mark.

[ffrenchie]

Hi and Thanks for your advice.
I have ordered some specialist windscreen sealant and hope it will do the job.
One thing that came up on the thread about the factory fault was not to use the roof bars for anything heavy.
I had planned on carrying my 23kilo fishing kayak on my roof from time to time.
Just wondered if it would put any stress on the roof, leading to leaks.
We shall have to wait and see.  Mark.

You need some bars to fit your roof mounting points on the metal not on the modutop. Check the weight limit of the bars for your roof as well.

[cancunia]

You need some bars to fit your roof mounting points on the metal not on the modutop. Check the weight limit of the bars for your roof as well.

The M59 Modutop rails will turn sideways so should be able to carry a reasonable weight. There are some weight specs in the handbook to show what can go on the roof directly and what the rails / bars can take. There's a story on here somewhere about someone putting their roof box direct on the Modutop and getting away with it.

[ffrenchie]

You need some bars to fit your roof mounting points on the metal not on the modutop. Check the weight limit of the bars for your roof as well.

The M59 Modutop rails will turn sideways so should be able to carry a reasonable weight. 

The modutop bars turn sideways but still mount on the weaker insert part of the roof, my niece has the Peugeot version and she had some proper roof bars that fitted over the modutop into the metal fixing points on the roof alongside the modutop seal. Turning the roof bars sideways doesn't give any more capacity it just makes it easier to overload the seal.

[cancunia]

Yep, agree totally that if you can attache to the steel, you can get a better load capacity & less risk of damage. According to the handbook, you can put a total of 70kg on the Modutop bars or 35kg on the roof strips, seems a lot to me, but I did carry a 6' kitchen table upside down on my roof bars for about 60 miles with no issue.

For some reason, I can't get the image to load properly, so for now, here's a link, to a page in the handbook..

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[geoff]

Fitting roof bars to the steel body is the best option - you have three mounting positions and the loading is more agreeable.