Crankshaft locking pin location

[frostyberlingo]

Hey guys,

Can anyone tell me where the crankshaft locking pin hole is located on a 2006 1.4i kfw?

[Tomcat3]

The wording in the Haynes manual says insert a 6mm dia bolt/pin into the hole in the cylinder block flange and into the flywheel hole. The camshaft sprocket is locked by a 10mm bolt/pin and the sprocket will be roughly in the 2 o`clock position. If you havnt got a Haynes manual you can download it on the site. Hope this helps.

[frostyberlingo]

The wording in the Haynes manual says insert a 6mm dia bolt/pin into the hole in the cylinder block flange and into the flywheel hole. The camshaft sprocket is locked by a 10mm bolt/pin and the sprocket will be roughly in the 2 o`clock position. If you havnt got a Haynes manual you can download it on the site. Hope this helps.

Thanks yes got a haynes manual but can't locate the hole in the cylinder block flange. Any idea where the whole is? In one document it says its above the oil filter and in another it says you have to remove the started motor to get access.

[jj9]

The hole is behind the oil filter and down to the right.

You can see it at 1:40 in the video below....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoWbaiEz8zs


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[frostyberlingo]

The hole is behind the oil filter and down to the right.

You can see it at 1:40 in the video below....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoWbaiEz8zs


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That's great thanks! exactly where I thought it was but for the life of me I just can't see it! I'll have another look later think the suns been blinding me

[FlyingKipper]

The hole is behind the oil filter and down to the right.

You can see it at 1:40 in the video below....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoWbaiEz8zs


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That's great thanks! exactly where I thought it was but for the life of me I just can't see it! I'll have another look later think the suns been blinding me

You need to be very careful here.  I expected the hole to line up with another hole in the flywheel so that you could lock it up.  In fact it just gives you access to the gear ring on the clutch housing.  You need to take the plastic cover off the top of the clutch bell housing to expose the ring and then you will see a timing mark on the gear ring.  See enclosed pic of the cover.

I had a problem last year where the car would not start.  Eventually whn I took the head off I saw some kiss marks on the pistons that told me the timing was out.  The problem was the cam belt drive pulley on the crankshaft has a woodruff key that had sheared and the pulley had rotated and picked up again so that the timing was a few degrees out.  That led to having to retime the engine,  locking the camshafts in position and locking the crank.  It was then I had problems. I found the hole and inserted a locking pin and thought all was OK. New cam belt etc replace alll parts and try to start NOTHING.  So then look clser at the timing and discovered the plastic cover on the gear ring and ONE timing mark.  Readjusted all again to the mark and BINGO success. At least two months of work to find the problem.

[FlyingKipper]

The cover is shown here

[jj9]

You need to be very careful here.  I expected the hole to line up with another hole in the flywheel so that you could lock it up.  In fact it just gives you access to the gear ring on the clutch housing.  You need to take the plastic cover off the top of the clutch bell housing to expose the ring and then you will see a timing mark on the gear ring.  See enclosed pic of the cover....

The whole point of inserting the pin through the hole in the block is so that it engages into a corresponding hole in the flywheel to lock the crank at TDC, you sometimes have to rock the engine back & forward a little to get the pin to engage.
It sounds like you just pushed the pin through the hole and assumed it had located when it hadn't.

If you time your engine up now can you find the hole in the flywheel with the pin?


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[FlyingKipper]

You need to be very careful here.  I expected the hole to line up with another hole in the flywheel so that you could lock it up.  In fact it just gives you access to the gear ring on the clutch housing.  You need to take the plastic cover off the top of the clutch bell housing to expose the ring and then you will see a timing mark on the gear ring.  See enclosed pic of the cover....

The whole point of inserting the pin through the hole in the block is so that it engages into a corresponding hole in the flywheel to lock the crank at TDC, you sometimes have to rock the engine back & forward a little to get the pin to engage.
It sounds like you just pushed the pin through the hole and assumed it had located when it hadn't.

If you time your engine up now can you find the hole in the flywheel with the pin?


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if I remember correctly as it was done a year ago there is no hole in the flywheel.  I used a length of screwed rod into the hole and on first attempt thought it had gone further into a hole in the flywheel.  When I looked closer after removing the cover on the flywheel I could see that the screwed rod was just passing between the gear teeth .  So I just used the only mark available and visible on the flywheel and assumed it was the timing mark.  Anyway the car has been running for 10 thou km since then so it must be OK.  What is important after replacing the cambelt and checking the timing is to turn the engine over a few times by hand to ensure nothing is crashing.

[jj9]

This has got my interest, I like trying to get to the bottom of things.

There has got to be a hole in the flywheel for the pin to engage with.

If the rod you were inserting was passing between the teeth of the flywheel on the outer edge that's too far out.... the hole that the locking pin goes in would put the pin further in towards the centre of the flywheel.

I'm guessing but maybe there is another hole in that area and you had the wrong hole, can you take a look to see if there is?

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