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AdBlue Topup
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Even though there have been no warnings thrown up that the AdBlue needs topping up on the XTR, is there any reason why one can't top up said stuff beforehand?
B9 (2016) 1.6 BlueHDi 100 Multispace XTR = Mine;   B9 (2013) Enterprise 1.6 HDi Van = Hers.
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No reason mate, if you want to fill it up, it will happily trundle along and at least you never get a warning that it's low eh.
My Van: 2012 B9 1.6 HDi Enterprise
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(01-10-2020, 02:46 PM)Zion Wrote:  No reason mate, if you want to fill it up, it will happily trundle along and at least you never get a warning that it's low eh.

I've got a 2014 VTR Airdream 90 with 40K up. Owned from new and still like it.  It doesn't have a filling point for Adblue but apparently has a bag of Ad-blue type stuff, and though I always ask for it to be checked at the Citroen dealership annual service I don't know where it is or how long it lasts. I presume when it gets low a warning light will come on? I'm am not able to do any servicing myself as modern cars are a mystery. I was alright helping my father overhaul his 1939 Morris 14, but nowadays I'm a "turn it on and drive" chap.
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(01-10-2020, 03:01 PM)rnamman Wrote:  
(01-10-2020, 02:46 PM)Zion Wrote:  No reason mate, if you want to fill it up, it will happily trundle along and at least you never get a warning that it's low eh.

I've got a 2014 VTR Airdream 90 with 40K up. Owned from new and still like it.  It doesn't have a filling point for Adblue but apparently has a bag of Ad-blue type stuff, and though I always ask for it to be checked at the Citroen dealership annual service I don't know where it is or how long it lasts. I presume when it gets low a warning light will come on? I'm am not able to do any servicing myself as modern cars are a mystery. I was alright helping my father overhaul his 1939 Morris 14, but nowadays I'm a "turn it on and drive" chap.

Hi there, the previous poster (Pedronicus) has a conventional adblue filler cap. As you say, your vehicle, like mine has a bag system with PAT fluid (Eolys) which will last 100,000 miles give or take, unless it develops a leak (not unknown, the bag seam can split on early ones but yours should be ok). The car (or van) has no way of knowing this on our system, so it always assumes a calculated remaining value. Each time you fill up, it detects the cap being removed and replaced on the fuel tank and squirts an exact amount of PAT fluid in via a pump. The whole kit is stored in a box under the vehicle in front of the driver's side rear wheel. I have 62k miles on my van and the Eolys bag shows 47% so it's near enough right (using diagnostic equipment)

One thing to be aware of, is that I was guilty of sticking £20 in here and there rather than filling up the tank, as I don't do a lot of miles...this meant it was squirting a full amount in as if I'd filled up but I hadn't. This would have made it run down quicker than it should, so I've stopped that practice, and I just fill it up completely now with diesel. 

It means I now only go to the fuel station once a month! But at least I won't have to replace the bag sooner than I should have to. It's about £100 for a bag of fluid.
My Van: 2012 B9 1.6 HDi Enterprise
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(01-10-2020, 03:20 PM)Zion Wrote:  
(01-10-2020, 03:01 PM)rnamman Wrote:  
(01-10-2020, 02:46 PM)Zion Wrote:  No reason mate, if you want to fill it up, it will happily trundle along and at least you never get a warning that it's low eh.

I've got a 2014 VTR Airdream 90 with 40K up. Owned from new and still like it.  It doesn't have a filling point for Adblue but apparently has a bag of Ad-blue type stuff, and though I always ask for it to be checked at the Citroen dealership annual service I don't know where it is or how long it lasts. I presume when it gets low a warning light will come on? I'm am not able to do any servicing myself as modern cars are a mystery. I was alright helping my father overhaul his 1939 Morris 14, but nowadays I'm a "turn it on and drive" chap.

Hi there, the previous poster (Pedronicus) has a conventional adblue filler cap. As you say, your vehicle, like mine has a bag system with PAT fluid (Eolys) which will last 100,000 miles give or take, unless it develops a leak (not unknown, the bag seam can split on early ones but yours should be ok). The car (or van) has no way of knowing this on our system, so it always assumes a calculated remaining value. Each time you fill up, it detects the cap being removed and replaced on the fuel tank and squirts an exact amount of PAT fluid in via a pump. The whole kit is stored in a box under the vehicle in front of the driver's side rear wheel. I have 62k miles on my van and the Eolys bag shows 47% so it's near enough right (using diagnostic equipment)

One thing to be aware of, is that I was guilty of sticking £20 in here and there rather than filling up the tank, as I don't do a lot of miles...this meant it was squirting a full amount in as if I'd filled up but I hadn't. This would have made it run down quicker than it should, so I've stopped that practice, and I just fill it up completely now with diesel. 

It means I now only go to the fuel station once a month! But at least I won't have to replace the bag sooner than I should have to. It's about £100 for a bag of fluid.
Thanks for your detailed info. So can I assume that the Citroen dealer's diagnostic system will show up any deficiency of Eolys when it is serviced annually? I'm hoping to get another 10 years driving out of it before I give up, but the anti-pollution rules get tighter every year, especially in London.
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The Citroen diagnostic system can't tell how much is actually left but can only tell what the car thinks is left by calculating the injected volume. A visual inspection will confirm the bag is intact with the cover removed when it gets serviced. As long as the bag is not leaking, you will get to 100k miles on the original fluid from new. Unlike the later adblue system, it doesn't need topped up unless you use it up by 100k miles or the bag gets burst, but it is in a protective cover so should be fine.
My Van: 2012 B9 1.6 HDi Enterprise
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