[Engine] Am I about to do something daft? 1.6 TDCI into 1.6 HDI

[jobbiejew]

Hey folks. 

First and foremost, merry Christmas for when it comes around. 

I’ll get to the point as quickly as possible with this. The timing slipped on my 2012 8 valve 1.6 HDI DV6DTED 9HP 93hp engine and the engine detonated. I’m not gonna waste my time sorting out everything that’s wrong with the engine so instead I’ve sourced another engine. It’s a 1.6 TDCI DV6 from a Ford C-Max. 


How likely am I to run into catastrophic issues by doing what I intend to do? The engine is on 64k miles from the donor car. My dead engine is on 230k miles because it’s an ex taxi. My dead engine also had a new top end all but 2.5-3 years ago. I think the engine has given up the ghost so I think replacing it would best rather than rebuilding it. 

The donor engine also came from an automatic mobility car and it’s going to be going into a 5 speed manual berlingo. Please tell me this is possible?

Any advice would really be highly appreciated. 

Thanks in advance.

[Gadgetman]

Doesn't Fordites call that engine the 416 or something equally non-descriptive?

It should be pretty much the same engine...
I think...

[Sol]

I think the Ford version used Siemens injectors which were prone to issues more than the Bosch ones on the Citroen version. You might need to change them over onto the new engine and they would then match again what is coded in the ECU. The engine looks the same otherwise though.

They are (should be) the exact same engine and also used in the Mini SD, the Mazda 323 etc along with others.

You will need to fit your own flywheel and clutch of course but it doesn't sound far fetched to swap the engine for the one you have found. On the Ford and your original, did they both have the double tube air doser unit? or both have the later single tube version? If so, perfect I think otherwise you might have to swap the original over if different as the harness on your vehicle will be looking for and fit onto, the version your car came with as the double doser has from memory, extra wiring.

Finally depending on HP of the new engine, one range uses fixed geometry turbos and the others use variable geometry turbos so the control system is different. If your original is different to the new one, you would need to swap over the exhaust manifold from the old engine I think (assuming you are using your old turbo), but could be wrong here - depending on whether they are different where the turbo connects onto it, since one has a wastegate and the other doesn't (AFAIK). Mine is the wastegate type. Never looked at the Berlingo VGT close up.