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Berlingo XL questions
#1
I’m considering getting an XL / LWB and have a couple of questions, and grateful for any insight from owners:
 
  1. Would I regret getting the petrol (the 110 – shame the 130 seems unavailable)?  We do below average mileage – perhaps only 6k miles p/a – but we’re a family of 5 with a rapidly-growing retriever (if it wasn’t for the dog and her crate an M would probably work fine) and this would mostly be a weekend / leisure vehicle used for holidays, camping, carrying bikes, etc.  We currently have a petrol Toyota so we’re no strangers to an underpowered car that needs to be revved hard to make progress (130hp / 160nm in a 1440kg car), but I’ve had enough of going up hills in 3rd with a line of traffic behind!  Regardless of a low annual mileage (and probably never recouping the extra financial outlay in MPG gains), I’d be minded to go for the 130 diesel if the driving experience of the petrol is going to be as badly strained as in my current car.  Any thoughts on real world driving 5/6 up?  Appreciate the 1.2 Puretech is torquier than what I’m driving currently.  I’d hope that we’d do enough longer runs to avoid DPF problems with the diesel although it’d be one less thing to worry about with the petrol.  We have a small petrol banger for most local / around town use.
  2. I’d want to carry bikes and the occasional roof box on the roof.  The XL without roof rails seems to be a bit awkward because whilst roofbox.co.uk sell cross bars, it sounds like they’re not spaced to fit a box.  No idea if my Thule bike carriers would fit either, but they’re pretty adjustable.  Finding and fitting aftermarket rails seems to be a bit of a lottery, although guessing Citroen would fit them, at a cost.  That suggests I need one of the Flair models with factory rails, but has anyone definitely got cross bars to fit because I’ve read a few things that suggest the rails are too fat and are really decorative!  roofbox.co.uk’s vehicle search tool reckons a Thule 775 footpack will fit an XL rail (says they fit a rail with a max. diameter of 68mm), and they’ve always been accurate in my experience, but this would be a deal breaker for me so it’d be great to know whether someone else has made this work before I shell out (the XL seems to have a relatively poor towing capacity so towbar bike racks aren’t a great option).
 
Thanks, PbW.
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#2
Don't know about Puretech, got 130 hp diesels only.

The roof rails are decorative, there was no plug-n-play crossbar solution for it. According to my dealer Thule was supposed to come out with a suitable set of crossbars in 2021. The distance is variable you see, wider in the front, narrower in the back.
2019 130hp 1.5 BlueHDi EAT8 L1 Shine 
2019 130hp 1.5 BlueHDi EAT8 L2 Feel
2020 130hp 1.5 BlueHDi EAT8 L2 Shine
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(19-01-2021, 11:49 PM)boop Wrote:  Don't know about Puretech, got 130 hp diesels only.

The roof rails are decorative, there was no plug-n-play crossbar solution for it. According to my dealer Thule was supposed to come out with a suitable set of crossbars in 2021. The distance is variable you see, wider in the front, narrower in the back.

Sorry for slow response, and thanks for your post. That's a real shame about the rails. I don't really understand why Citroen would have put decorative rails on a car which is famed for its practicality as a load lugger, especially as the Flair models with the rails are pricier, but who knows what goes through car makers' heads! I'd be fitting through-bars (that overhang the rails on the outsides) so the width variability shouldn't be a problem in theory, but if the rails are too fat for any aftermarket bars to clamp on to in the first place, that's academic. Are you aware that the M model suffers from the same issue? Would be interested to hear any real-world experiences from any other petrol owners out there but sounds like I might need to keep looking as I'll need to use that roof!

Cheers, PwB
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#4
I have a B9 with factory XTR thick roof rails, strong as an ox they are and Citroen sell cross bars to fit, they just aren't cheap. Can you not buy them for the K9 ??

Doesn't make sense. These are definitely not decorative!

See here: B9 & K9 and every other Citroen ever made...(edit sorry forgot to change the page to Euros)

https://citroen-shop.eu/gb/90-roof-racks
My Van: 2012 B9 1.6 HDi Enterprise
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No idea, I did not pay it any more attention after hearing that there will be a rack available soon.

(22-01-2021, 08:41 AM)Zion Wrote:  I have a B9 with factory XTR thick roof rails, strong as an ox they are and Citroen sell cross bars to fit, they just aren't cheap. Can you not buy them for the K9 ??

Doesn't make sense. These are definitely not decorative!

See here: B9 & K9 and every other Citroen ever made...(edit sorry forgot to change the page to Euros)

https://citroen-shop.eu/gb/90-roof-racks

Checked the site thanks, those are not compatible. Pictured are some old style bars, not the wrist thick ones I have.
2019 130hp 1.5 BlueHDi EAT8 L1 Shine 
2019 130hp 1.5 BlueHDi EAT8 L2 Feel
2020 130hp 1.5 BlueHDi EAT8 L2 Shine
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#6
I think I've got the same ones as boop. 2020, Flair model with very thick roof rails, and they're not on the link above. I really hope there are roof bars to fit it later, I'd love to be able to carry a canoe.
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#7
I have the original Citroen factory roof rails, thick as your arm. They aren't copies, and the cross bars fit on the B9 anyway. They have a PSA part number and are available from any dealer. It's a shame if they don't make them for the K9.
My Van: 2012 B9 1.6 HDi Enterprise
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#8
Dpf is not a problem on modern diesels as they use ad blue. Diesels that clog dpf on short runs is technology out of date by a decade. Any car will benefit from a bit of a run. I’m sure you can manage a 10mile dual carriageway run every month or so. Go for the diesel I would. Better economy & probably better resale value unless you live in a city & drive in city centres then diesel might not be so future proof.
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