[Filters & Oil] 1.6 HDi Oil Change via Suction - Best tool?

[cancunia]

I think there's a fairly large number of opinions on this but after making a real mess yesterday due to strong winds, I'm now thinking about getting a dipstick vacuum oil changer thingy.

Can anyone recommend a good n cheap tool for this?
What size pipe fits down the dipstick tube of the 1.6HDi ?

Thanks

[bikerbaker]

I'm not a great fan of extracting oil through the dipstick hole but I did buy a hand pumped one which was very effective.

In my defence I would like to say that I bought a Smart Car whilst on crutches for a year and needed an auto. Gave the car an oil and filter change with no problem and pretty sure it all came out.

https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0...UTF8&psc=1

It came with 2 tubes, pretty sure the small one would do the Berlingo.

I'm considering using it for interim oil changes for both the Berlingo and the VW T4 - both have undertrays. 

[Argos69]

I think there's a fairly large number of opinions on this but after making a real mess yesterday due to strong winds, I'm now thinking about getting a dipstick vacuum oil changer thingy.

Can anyone recommend a good n cheap tool for this?
What size pipe fits down the dipstick tube of the 1.6HDi ?

Thanks

I bought a Sealey extractor years ago and its still going strong. It came with about three different diameter tubes and I've never found a car dipstick tube that at least one of them wouldn't fit. A quick g@@gle will find it and a number of alternatives.

My advice would be to run the engine a bit to stir things up and warm the oil so it flows better, then push the tube in until it hits the sump floor, then draw it back 2-3mm. Then pump away!

As I say, I've used it on lots of cars, but I do a "proper" change every now and then so I'm not leaving anything on the sump floor forever.

All things considered, I've found mine to be very useful.

[cancunia]

Thanks for the replies.
I think the 1.6 engine will struggle to get a tube much bigger than 6mm od down the dip stick tube?

[Argos69]

Thanks for the replies.
I think the 1.6 engine will struggle to get a tube much bigger than 6mm od down the dip stick tube?

No problem. I've used the one I mentioned on 3 Berlingo 1.6HDis.
Smallest pipe that came with mine was just under 6mm.
Check their website...

[RocketVANman]

Firstly I have a van without an undrtray so oil changes are a doddle. :-)

I always thought that draining via the drain plug was not getting all the oil out.
The drain plug and the thread for it are recessed into the sump so you will never get all the oil out via the sump
plug.

I too bought a cheap and chearful vacuum sump drain.  I drained the van normally.. leaving it for about an hour or so, more than ample.

I then used the vacuum pump via the dipstick tube.  I got lots out..I estimate around 200ml+.
Also, when you remove the filter, there's lots of residue oil there as well.. I get 50-70 ml out of there as well via the vacuum pump.

In summary:
don't even try an oil change in windy weather...been there done it..
Secondly - use the vacuum pump in conjunction with draining via the sump plug.
Lastly..if you have an undertray..consider fitting an access panel in the sump tray.  Easier to remove the access panel.
There's a thread on here by a guy who hammered his Bingo with v hight mileage, a courier IIRC?  He fitted one to  make oil changes so much easier and quicker..

Good luck

[IHateMyDadsM59Berlingo]

I think there's a fairly large number of opinions on this but after making a real mess yesterday due to strong winds, I'm now thinking about getting a dipstick vacuum oil changer thingy.

Can anyone recommend a good n cheap tool for this?
What size pipe fits down the dipstick tube of the 1.6HDi ?

Thanks

I wouldn't bother with extraction through the oil dipstick. Get a decent trolley jack and set of axel stands an d a 21 mm socket. 1.5 tonne ones should do it and drain to oil. If if it were a Mercedes yes i would say extract through the sump the via "Dipstick tube but on a DV6 don't go fancy on a non fancy engine > PSA didn't design the engine like Mercedes would have. Just extract the oil though the drain plug life made easy just be ware the Hex is very shallow on the sump and van be rounded of not careful. If its an after market sump it will be a 14m hex sump plug. Just a warning just incase.

[brajomobil]

Years ago bought this one:
https://www.lidl-service.com/cps/rde/xch...&title=Oil
Works like charm but it will take you 45-60min to suck up 3.5 liters.
In that time I change filters and do other stuff.
I change oil one a year regardless of miles.

Best regards,
Brajomobil

[Sol]

That looks good Brajomobil.

I know what I'd rather do, lift the bonnet and use a pump down the dipstick tube rather than get out a trolley jack and axle stands, jack up both ends, set up the axle stands, crawl under it to drain the oil then have to dismantle it all.

Plus as pointed out, the sump holds a good quarter litre of mucky oil - at least with the pump you get it all.

[cancunia]

Smallest pipe that came with mine was just under 6mm.
Check their website...

Ah, that's good to know. I looked at Sealey instructions yesterday after seeing your post and wondered which of the pipes would fit.

https://www.mackay.co.uk/media/manuals/s...S01169.pdf

Interesting also that you can get more oil out via the suction method than the drain plug. There's a drain plug mod on here that I'm tempted to apply at some point. The problem is that it's normally windy here at the top of a hill so I take precautions, but last weekend was just a nightmare.