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Cambelt snapped
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A couple of K miles short of my intended change of belts (on 98k and 6 years old) cambelt snapped yesterday on 2016 berlingo 1.6hdi.

At garage monday.

I am fearing the worst here in terms of cost.

Any guesstimates?

Many thanks in advance.
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#2
Impossible to say without delving in to have a look.Its a lottery as to what is damaged.
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#3
Make sure the garage you are using are aware that the camshaft is the assembled type & will need replacing, they will probably know this but better safe than sorry.

An assembled camshaft is more or less a tube with the lobes press fitted, the lobes will have moved out of position when the pistons hit the valves see the video in the link below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCqlyWDrMjU&t=2088s


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My vehicle .... 2006 (m59) Berlingo Multispace Desire - 1.6 HDI 92 
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mmm - was actually dropped of at garage by AA in middle of night on Saturday. Just rang and they said normally they would drop in a replacement engine. I am thinking this is overkill but totally mechanically inept so don't know?
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You're in a relatively weak position - not necessarily knowing the garage, the standard of work and overall 'honesty'. The normal procedure would be to remove the cylinder head and inspect, not simply replace the engine. The replacment might be no more than a unit out of a scrapper if you're not careful.
It might eventually be a replacement is the best option, but the probability of that is relatively low. 
It may even be better to swallow the cost of having the van recovered by another garage that is better placed to provide a good service and a warranty for any work carried out.

There are plenty of recovery men out there, AA etc., that have side-deals with garages and get a kick-back for dropping off stranded vehicles.
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(27-06-2022, 08:41 AM)oilyrag Wrote:  You're in a relatively weak position - not necessarily knowing the garage, the standard of work and overall 'honesty'. The normal procedure would be to remove the cylinder head and inspect, not simply replace the engine. The replacment might be no more than a unit out of a scrapper if you're not careful.
It might eventually be a replacement is the best option, but the probability of that is relatively low. 
It may even be better to swallow the cost of having the van recovered by another garage that is better placed to provide a good service and a warranty for any work carried out.

There are plenty of recovery men out there, AA etc., that have side-deals with garages and get a kick-back for dropping off stranded vehicles.

They are now investigating after my obvious surprise at initial suggestion to just replace engine. Will see what they say and then have a couple of other places I know dependent on that. The garage concerned do seemingly have a good rep if reviews are anything to go by and were recommended by the guy who recovered us (although realise that might not be an independent view).
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I suppose labour charges could come into play. Changing an engine is relatively quick whereas stripping an engine and replacing internal components is time consuming and requires skill.

However as I understand the camshaft is designed to fail when the belt breaks. You need a garage that has an old school mechanic

Peter
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Update and further question please.

Had this repaired - cost a fortune and took nearly 4 weeks to get back. Been running fine and took it back for a quick check over after 500 miles or so.

Under bonnet today I notice a film of oil around the rocker cover. I am presuming this is not normal and indicates a gasket leak? Oil level fine and it is not dripping oil, just a fine film.

Sorry clueless with these things, but presume this needs to go back for investigation?

Any advice welcome.

P.s. probably done around 1100-1200 miles since getting the car back.
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#9
Not usually a serious issue , more of a nuisance. Call in to the garage when passing and ask their opinion. May just need further tightening, but don't lose sleep over it.
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