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Double judder when decelerating
#1
Hi everyone Im a new member and looking forward to learning a few points which will help me keep my 2013 Berlingo going a bit longer !

I do have a problem that the garage seem lost on, and that is when I decelerate between 50-70 mph there is a double judder that appears to come from under the car, that funnily enough does not happen when the air con is activated. Does anyone have any ideas ?

I have a 2013 Berlingo Multispace XTR 1.6 HDI (B9) OSOBOWY (85 Kw / 115 HP)
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#2
engine , g/box or front suspension mountings ?

But I don't think the air con on or off would affect them
2010 B9 red XTR w a v. 
2001 1.9d DW8B white  Berlingo  
2005 2.l green Berlingo
2001 1.9d DW8B white  Berlingo 
berlingo 1.4 red multispace
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#3
Thank you for the reply, the car recently had a service and the mechanic said the mountings were good, but after I tried it and the double judder is there at 60 mph and above bot nothing when I engage the ac compressor it's weird.
I've had new ac compressor fitted to eliminate the fault but when I turn the ac off I get the double thud under the car.
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#4
I 've never heard of this before but someone who has had the same may be able to help.

Hope that the someone will be along soon.
2010 B9 red XTR w a v. 
2001 1.9d DW8B white  Berlingo  
2005 2.l green Berlingo
2001 1.9d DW8B white  Berlingo 
berlingo 1.4 red multispace
1993 xud 1.9 red partner
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#5
Thanks so much for the reply, it's an annoying fault as the car drives perfect with the AC on which in Spain is more on than off. However I really want to find the reason why this happens so it can be cured. I agree it feels "mounting" related but with the ac on the car decelerates normally it's only when it's off that I get like a double judder after a second or two when I take my foot off the accelerator, it's more prominent between 59 - 70 mph and less above 70.

01/08/2022
I have discovered that at low rpm and in second there is a judder (AC on or off), I am now wondering if the gearbox mounting is the culprit, any comments please would be very helpful
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#6
Could be the lower torque mount (dogbone) at the bottom rear of the engine.
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Hi thanks for the reply, that sounds worth a try, do you have a part number please?
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(01-08-2022, 12:00 PM)Zion Wrote:  Could be the lower torque mount (dogbone) at the bottom rear of the engine.

Hi Zion, could you tell me what this part looks like and if possible a photo
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(01-08-2022, 12:00 PM)Zion Wrote:  Could be the lower torque mount (dogbone) at the bottom rear of the engine.

Hi Zion I have enclosed a PDF of the engine mounts and circled the one I think you are referring to


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#10
Yeah that's the one I was thinking about. You can get powerflex inserts for it.
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