[Engine] Rear engine mounting transmission mouting

[Mat]

Hi 
My 2004 2.0 diesel freemultispace has developed a rattle from an engine mounting at the back of the engine, the one that that drive shaft runs through. 
Could anyone tell me if it's best to replace the bracket or put a new bush in it and what diameter it's is for a 2.0 diesel. 

And... If the poly bushes are any better and do they save the removal of the drive shaft ?

 
Kind regards
Mat

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[Gadgetman]

That mount can be accessed from underneath the car.
The bushes is on a pivoting arm that attaches to a subframe or something behind the engine, and should be easy enough to remove without messing with the rest of the motor mount.
One horisontal bolt next to the engine, and a vertical one at the subframe.

you should not need to mess with the drive shaft at all.

I hope...

I only have experience with the 1.4i engine model...

If you decide to 'tighten up' the bolts holding the mount onto the engine itself, you will probably need one of these:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/DSFSAEG-Univers...ref=sr_1_4

[Sol]

The engine side of that torque mount has a large bush in it, that can also be worn. it's not just the torque arm and the smaller bush that can wear. And the poly bush you can get, is only for the large bush in the alloy cast mount. It's reckoned to be hard to fit a poly bush without removing the engine mount and drive shaft. Mine is worn and moving. 

Already asked about it, no easy fix.

[saskak]

I have not done it myself, but if I had to do it I thought this video will certainly help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xew03Q8W6Z8

It is Peugeot 306, but fairly the same and very well filmed with the engine outside.

[Sol]

@saskak, thanks for that link mate. Really shows how easy it would be to swap to a poly bush without removing the engine mount itself.

That's going on the list of to-do's.

@Mat - that shows it's not as hard as I was led to believe. (Said the chorus girl to the Bishop )

[saskak]

@saskak, thanks for that link mate. Really shows how easy it would be to swap to a poly bush without removing the engine mount itself.

That's going on the list of to-do's.

@Mat - that shows it's not as hard as I was led to believe. (Said the chorus girl to the Bishop )

Yes, I had that video in my liked ones, so to remember to watch it I need to do it. I think on this forum I was given the advice to turn the blade of a metal handsaw upside down, so the cutting face is towards the inside of the saw. That way one can slip the blade inside the bush and cut through the metal sleeve and then take it out and put the polybush in. Have not done it, but it is a bit tight and probably a small metal file will work better.

The bolt for the exhaust bracket on mine was so rusted that I had to file it out with a mini metal file, so it is doable, but it took me 3 days to cut through the thick metal bolt.

[Sol]

I have to try and get a proper look at mine, to see if anything is actually in the way on the B9, as the shudder when pulling away, plus the movement in the engine when changing gear, is so annoying that I really want it fixed.

[saskak]

I have to try and get a proper look at mine, to see if anything is actually in the way on the B9, as the shudder when pulling away, plus the movement in the engine when changing gear, is so annoying that I really want it fixed.

Because I replaced the engine and gearbox mounts I always thought of replacing the third one, but it is rather tight and there was something stopping the file to work and that is why I did not do it. The video is quite good, but I do not intend to take the engine out to do it, hahaha.
I had a proper look at the time and it seemed alright, but these just perish with time with the amount of movement that they do. Cannot quite remember what was stopping the handsaw from doing its job, but there was something there. I suspect it might be similar in the B9.

[Sol]

Sounds like a job for a sharp edge file. I thought about using a hole saw to take out the centre bush, or a pad saw (electricians sharp pointed version) to cut through the rubber spokes, and then cut a slot in the outer sleeve with a sharp half round file.

[Kyleonsite]

I've done this on my 2.0HDI - jack/axle stands and did it from underneath. Drilled the rubber bush out then cut through the outer retaining metal bush sleeve with an Eclipse hacksaw blade holder. New PU bush easily fitted.

Have also changed rear/small doggone bush. All easy to do stuff just not particularly pleasant