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Undertray
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I read about this and have what I suspect is the usual undertray problem. Having just gotten the 2013 one of the things I want to do is change the oil.

My undertray fixings are a right mess. Dodgy   Some bolts just keep turning and some are ready to shear at the nut bit.  I read about them being destroyed to get them off. Does any one have a suggestion to deal with this. 

Because it is an automatic I won't attempt to drive the vehicle on my high ramps so access for me is rather limited. Angry

I have thought of releasing the tray by using a hole cutter slightly larger than the 10mm bolt head - about 14mm - but then the mounting holes will be 14mm which could make refitting a bit of a game! Huh

Is there no end to the fun and games with my Berlingo!! Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry
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#2
It's up to you of course, but I'd buy a replacement set of under tray fixings off eBay and just let the old ones shear. I've bought a kit to do mine.

The originals always rot, but I wouldn't drill them out to 14, or your into tie wraps on every hole and it won't be pretty.

You may not realise this, but the inner wheel arch liners as well as the front bumper lower valance bit, rely on being tied securely to the undertray...or they flap around in the wind.

When I got my last van's clutch done, the guy didn't fix the arch liners to the tray and one came off at speed, wrapping itself around the driveshaft and tyre. Wasn't nice.
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(11-11-2022, 05:07 PM)Zion Wrote:  It's up to you of course, but I'd buy a replacement set of under tray fixings off eBay and just let the old ones shear. I've bought a kit to do mine.

The originals always rot, but I wouldn't drill them out to 14, or your into tie wraps on every hole and it won't be pretty.

You may not realise this, but the inner wheel arch liners as well as the front bumper lower valance bit, rely on being tied securely to the undertray...or they flap around in the wind.

When I got my last van's clutch done, the guy didn't fix the arch liners to the tray and one came off at speed, wrapping itself around the driveshaft and tyre. Wasn't nice.
Yes, I spotted this about the bumper when underneath. I am shocked at the wasted space at the front forward of the radiator.  I have not had a motor with such a lot of plastic at the front.

I might take it to a local shop to get the tray off because he can lift it on a two poster to get to the bolts.

The problem is that the "nut" the bolts are attached to just revolves because the plastic they are on shears.

These are the clips?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/354328895371?...R_zVoJCNYQ
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Pretty much, that's them.

I got these ones: (same, but UK seller.and 3 day delivery)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/323259548445?...media=COPY

And a new tray:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324018636197?...media=COPY
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(12-11-2022, 07:51 AM)Zion Wrote:  Pretty much, that's them.

I got these ones: (same, but UK seller.and 3 day delivery)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/323259548445?...media=COPY

And a new tray:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324018636197?...media=COPY
I like the look of that undertray and it is a good price too!!

I am going to a local garage on Monday to have the tray removed.

If it is in one piece I can refit it later - I am sure he will not have the clips to refit it there and then.

How useful is the tray?
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If they have to butcher the tray to get it off, you'll need a new one.

Mine was already missing on this latest van. Drives me nuts when people leave stuff like that off.
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(12-11-2022, 08:42 AM)Zion Wrote:  If they have to butcher the tray to get it off, you'll need a new one.

Mine was already missing on this latest van. Drives me nuts when people leave stuff like that off.

When I asked him about taking it off he seemed to be amused that I was asking and when I asked about bit being chopped off he was really entertained.  Where I am there are lots of these Citroen/Peugeot motors so he would surely have come across this before.  

For me, the real problem is getting underneath.
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You'd think so eh. I guess you'll find out soon enough if he's done it before or not. Either it'll come back tiewrapped on, or missing altogether (and he'll say oh you don't really need it) lol
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(12-11-2022, 07:23 PM)Zion Wrote:  You'd think so eh. I guess you'll find out soon enough if he's done it before or not. Either it'll come back tie wrapped on, or missing altogether (and he'll say oh you don't really need it) lol

Best place for it is the shed  Big Grin Our M59 doesn't have one it might be handy to keep oil leaks hidden if there were any.
So where does this bit go then ?
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On the B9, it holds the inner wheel arch liners on in several places at the bottom / front.

Also, if you go through standing water, it soaks the cat & DPF/ downpipe with cold water when they're already red hot. I'd rather have mine fitted.
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