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How do I spot a good Berlingo?
#1
Hello. I'm new to the forum. 

My beloved Citroen C15 has died of rust infestation. Since getting the c15 we have a child so having a 2 seater van is not that practical. So naturally I'm drawn to a Berlingo multispace. I'm drawn to either of the first generation model as they had a lot in common with the c15 (and this works better for my budget Cool ) what I'd like is a baby seat in the back with the rest of the seats removed to use as a van space. 

Can anyone point me in the direction of a good buying guide or any good YouTube videos about the first generation so I can start making a checklist?

Also and please forgive me if this is sacrilidge on this forum but I have to ask. 

What's the difference between the Berlingo compared to the pergeot partner and the Vauxhall combo?
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#2
Berlingo and Partner are practically the same vehicle, early Combo was a van based on the Vauxhall Corsa not a car.
So where does this bit go then ?
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#3
(03-02-2023, 10:48 PM)C15 Wrote:  Hello. I'm new to the forum. 

My beloved Citroen C15 has died of rust infestation. Since getting the c15 we have a child so having a 2 seater van is not that practical. So naturally I'm drawn to a Berlingo multispace. I'm drawn to either of the first generation model as they had a lot in common with the c15 (and this works better for my budget Cool ) what I'd like is a baby seat in the back with the rest of the seats removed to use as a van space. 

Can anyone point me in the direction of a good buying guide or any good YouTube videos about the first generation so I can start making a checklist?

Also and please forgive me if this is sacrilidge on this forum but I have to ask. 

What's the difference between the Berlingo compared to the pergeot partner and the Vauxhall combo?

One thing I found most annoying with the You Tube "guides" is a failure to mention the DPF situation.

70 000 miles on the clock is when you start to have to get things serviced which could be a pest.  Also lots of these are either very high mileage or tend to be adapted to hell.

Peugeot has a weird steering wheel and a high up instrument cluster.

I looked for a cheap road fund model.
Make life easier - go automatic. Cool
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(05-02-2023, 10:33 PM)John Bilko Wrote:  
(03-02-2023, 10:48 PM)C15 Wrote:  Hello. I'm new to the forum. 

My beloved Citroen C15 has died of rust infestation. Since getting the c15 we have a child so having a 2 seater van is not that practical. So naturally I'm drawn to a Berlingo multispace. I'm drawn to either of the first generation model as they had a lot in common with the c15 (and this works better for my budget Cool ) what I'd like is a baby seat in the back with the rest of the seats removed to use as a van space. 

Can anyone point me in the direction of a good buying guide or any good YouTube videos about the first generation so I can start making a checklist?

Also and please forgive me if this is sacrilidge on this forum but I have to ask. 

What's the difference between the Berlingo compared to the pergeot partner and the Vauxhall combo?

One thing I found most annoying with the You Tube "guides" is a failure to mention the DPF situation.

70 000 miles on the clock is when you start to have to get things serviced which could be a pest.  Also lots of these are either very high mileage or tend to be adapted to hell.

Peugeot has a weird steering wheel and a high up instrument cluster.

I looked for a cheap road fund model.

The OP is asking about first generation Berlingo [so M49 or M59 model] none of those has a DPF as they were only fitted after 2010.
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(03-02-2023, 10:48 PM)C15 Wrote:  Hello. I'm new to the forum. 

My beloved Citroen C15 has died of rust infestation. Since getting the C15 we have a child so having a 2 seater van is not that practical. So naturally I'm drawn to a Berlingo Multispace. I'm drawn to either of the first generation model as they had a lot in common with the C15 (and this works better for my budget Cool ) what I'd like is a baby seat in the back with the rest of the seats removed to use as a van space. 

Can anyone point me in the direction of a good buying guide or any good YouTube videos about the first generation so I can start making a checklist?

Also and please forgive me if this is sacrilege on this forum but I have to ask. 

What's the difference between the Berlingo compared to the Peugeot partner and the Vauxhall combo?

As mentioned in another answer The Citroen Berlingo Multispace and Peugeot Partner are basically the same vehicle. I had a 2007 Berlingo Multispace [M59 Model] and probably would still have it now if someone hadn't written it off by driving into the back of me.

The Multispace M59 model [2002-2008] is a good vehicle and being van based if fairly easy to work on [if you do your own servicing] and parts are relatively cheap.

Steer away from the 1.4 Petrol engine version and also the 1.9 normally aspirated diesel as both are woefully underpowered.

There is also the 1.6 Petrol but I think that is pretty thirsty fuel wise

In the model you are looking at there is the 2.0Hdi and the 1.6Hdi diesel version. They both return pretty good MPG and neither have DPFs to go wrong [but that also means you cannot go into any of the ULEZ areas springing up all over without paying a charge]

Things to look for apart from obvious leaks etc, is that the electrics all work ok and there are no error messages showing for airbags etc on the centre MFD [Multi Function Display] 

Also given the age of the vehicles you are looking at, I would expect to see evidence of a cambelt/water-pump change as these should be done at 10 years or 100,000 miles [whichever is sooner] as if the belt breaks you are into a whole world of pain.

The M59 Multspace models had various interiors and the Multspace Desire model had Multiple Glass Sunroofs [non opening] and a whole load of interior overhead stowage [Think airline bin style overhead stowage] These are great but check for two things, that all the stowage doors are fitted and the catches work [as these are very hard to get replacements for] and look for any leaks around the roof area as the sunroof unit with roofbars was a single large [factory fitted] unit with a large rubber seal around the whole unit and the seals have been known to go around the glass panes and leak.

Check the spare wheel is in place [underneath the rear of the vehicle] and the jack/wheel brace is still present [rear of vehicle behind side panel]

Air-con was an optional extra on these models, so check it works if fitted. Although there is a load of glass on the Berlingo M59 on these models all the four rear side windows are on catches, so all four [or any combination of them] can be opened for ventilation, as well as the two front windows of course.

With regard to the rear seat situation, the M59 model had a 60/40 split rear seat, so you could leave the smaller part in place for your child and fold [or remove if you want to unbolt it] the larger rear seat section.
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(06-02-2023, 12:59 AM)Multispacer Wrote:  
(03-02-2023, 10:48 PM)C15 Wrote:  Hello. I'm new to the forum. 


What's the difference between the Berlingo compared to the Peugeot partner and the Vauxhall combo?



In the model you are looking at there is the 2.0Hdi and the 1.6Hdi diesel version. They both return pretty good MPG and neither have DPFs to go wrong [but that also means you cannot go into any of the ULEZ areas springing up all over without paying a charge]
Some great advice there and had I had such advice I would have headed for the non DPF version except mileages on earlier Berlingos seem to be very high and, of course in my case, autos are very rare.
With regard to the spare wheel something which applies to all the wheels is to check for rust and or deformity if they are steel.  The owners never seem to clean behind the wheel trims and the steel gets into a really bad state.
Make life easier - go automatic. Cool
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(06-02-2023, 12:59 AM)Multispacer Wrote:  Steer away from the 1.4 Petrol engine version and also the 1.9 normally aspirated diesel as both are woefully underpowered.

I wouldn't rule out the 1.9 - it's robust and has good torque at low revs, and bear in mind the OP has been driving a C15, so there'd be no sense of 'stepping down' power-wise.
Work van:     2020 1.5 BlueHDi 100 Enterprise Berlingo
Spare van:    2001 1.9 600d Berlingo
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#8
Rear axles can be a problem on older Berlingos - possibly more so on the MPV compared to the vans (I've seen at least 2 youtube channels that had broken rear axles on their MPVs).

Once you're looking at specific vehicles and know their reg numbers, it's always good to check out their MOT history - this can give an indication of any issues they've had, plus how they might have been cared for (plus it provides info on what questions to ask the seller). The gov.uk website provides MOT histories for most vehicles, if you input a vehicle's reg number: https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history
Work van:     2020 1.5 BlueHDi 100 Enterprise Berlingo
Spare van:    2001 1.9 600d Berlingo
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(06-02-2023, 08:05 AM)notsofast Wrote:  
(06-02-2023, 12:59 AM)Multispacer Wrote:  Steer away from the 1.4 Petrol engine version and also the 1.9 normally aspirated diesel as both are woefully underpowered.

I wouldn't rule out the 1.9 - it's robust and has good torque at low revs, and bear in mind the OP has been driving a C15, so there'd be no sense of 'stepping down' power-wise.

Yes, I agree with you now having re-read the OP, coming from a C15 Diesel, to the 1.9D would probably be fine. The old generation 1.9D is a good solid engine if it is looked after with regular oil changes [think it was still 6000 between changes, at least it was on my 1.9TD ZX estate which had the same engine but with a turbo added, that had well over 250,000 miles on it when I sold it on]
The only thing to point out is the road tax is higher on the 1.9D that the 1.6/2.0 Hdi versions? [I think the 1.9D is £290 a year to tax compared to £165 fox the 1.6/2.0Hdi]
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#10
Have a look for a Peugeot Partner Escapade - I have a 2004 year with the 2.0HDI and it's been great. It has higher suspension than its Citroen counterparts so is even better at crashing through potholes.

The 2.0HDI is a proven unstressed bulletproof engine and far better than the early troublesome 1.6HDI (completely different engine to the 2.0HDI). The EGR valve is easily disconnected if needed. The clutch is old school single mass.

Peugeot also did a Quicksilver model - again this can be had with the 2.0Hdi

Don't buy a wheelchair converted one - they are not worth the hassles.
2004 Peugeot Escapade 2.0HDI. 115k miles
2004 Volvo V70 2.4  208k miles
2011 Volvo XC90 215k miles
2005 Porsche Cayenne 170k miles
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