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[Engine] Timing belt
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Hello all, looking for some help, my friend has the 1.9 2004 berlingo and we were changing the water pump and I have a fair bit of experience in the trade but I made a rookie mistake of not marking the cam belt when I was taking it off, don’t ask me how ?. Anyway I think it may be out by a couple teeth as it does start but it struggles to start but once it’s going it’s running fine. Was wondering if anyone could help me possibly time it back up. Thanks to all that have any answers
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#2
In my opinion marking the belt is a rookie mistake.
Where you going to put it back on?
If the pump is knackered then the belt wont be far behind it.

The easiest and best way is get a manual for it. Hayes has details on how to time the engine.
20/30 quid but cheaper than a knackered engine because the valve timing being too far out.
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You will find instructions & diagrams of the procedure in  >> THIS THREAD <<


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My vehicle .... 2006 (m59) Berlingo Multispace Desire - 1.6 HDI 92 
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#4
The DWv8 engine is fairly easy to time as you can peg the flywheel and the camshaft. I have done it several times, just make sure the slack on the belt is on the tensioner side. The Haynes instructions are straightforward to follow and work

Peter
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(16-08-2023, 06:48 PM) pid=\155240' Wrote:In my opinion marking the belt is a rookie mistake.
  Where you going to put it back on?  
If the pump is knackered then the belt wont be far behind it.

The easiest and best way is get a manual for it. Hayes has details on how to time the engine.
20/30 quid but cheaper than a knackered engine because the valve timing being too far out.

I did advise my friend to order a new cam belt but he didn’t have one readily available so he just wanted the pump on I think this may be another reason I didnt mark the belt or peg the camshaft as I was in a rush he was also helping me and I think he got a bit trigger happy and just started taking bolts off
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(17-08-2023, 05:24 AM)Romahomepete Wrote:  The DWv8 engine is fairly easy to time as you can peg the flywheel and the camshaft.  I have done it several times, just make sure the slack on the belt is on the tensioner  side.  The Haynes instructions are straightforward to follow and work

Peter

I was looking at pegging them but I wasn’t massively sure due to not doing one on this engine before I could peg the camshaft but the crankshaft pulley is a damper one so I wasnt too sure on that one. If I was to time it from scratch any advice on that?
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(17-08-2023, 07:36 AM)CDOGG23 Wrote:  
(17-08-2023, 05:24 AM)Romahomepete Wrote:  The DWv8 engine is fairly easy to time as you can peg the flywheel and the camshaft.  I have done it several times, just make sure the slack on the belt is on the tensioner  side.  The Haynes instructions are straightforward to follow and work

Peter

I was looking at pegging them but I wasn’t massively sure due to not doing one on this engine before I could peg the camshaft but the crankshaft pulley is a damper one so I wasnt too sure on that one. If I was to time it from scratch any advice on that?

You peg the flywheel as Pete said, never the crank pulley.
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(17-08-2023, 10:56 AM)Zion Wrote:  
(17-08-2023, 07:36 AM)CDOGG23 Wrote:  
(17-08-2023, 05:24 AM)Romahomepete Wrote:  The DWv8 engine is fairly easy to time as you can peg the flywheel and the camshaft.  I have done it several times, just make sure the slack on the belt is on the tensioner  side.  The Haynes instructions are straightforward to follow and work

Peter

I was looking at pegging them but I wasn’t massively sure due to not doing one on this engine before I could peg the camshaft but the crankshaft pulley is a damper one so I wasnt too sure on that one. If I was to time it from scratch any advice on that?

You peg the flywheel as Pete said, never the crank pulley.

Yes this makes sense. So if the timing is out how can I rectify it? I wouldn’t have thought it was massively out as I put the belt back on as soon as I realised I hadn’t locked the cam and flywheel. Thank you for the replies all the help is much appreciated.
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You would rotate the engine by hand to line up the timing marks on the flywheel and the cam, if both can't be lined up then the belt is out. You'd then take the belt off and move the cam or crank gently until both line up, pin them in place and fit the belt then set the tensioner back into position and remove the pins.
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(17-08-2023, 08:00 PM)Zion Wrote:  You would rotate the engine by hand to line up the timing marks on the flywheel and the cam, if both can't be lined up then the belt is out. You'd then take the belt off and move the cam or crank gently until both line up, pin them in place and fit the belt then set the tensioner back into position and remove the pins.

Thank you for this information does this also correlate with the diesel pump and will the timing marks be easily visible?
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