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Double Din Head Unit
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I want to get the more modern Citroen Berlingo from same model, double din head unit for my 2014 Berlingo. Can this be done and has anyone succeeded with it?? Sorry if this has been asked before...Oh any installation pics would be useful too.


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(14-11-2023, 10:12 PM)BER-LINGO Wrote:  I want to get the more modern Citroen Berlingo from same model, double din head unit for my 2014 Berlingo. Can this be done and has anyone succeeded with it?? Sorry if this has been asked before...Oh any installation pics would be useful too.

The quick answer is no and from reading posts by other users who have the later model standard fit Berlingo unit, you probably don't want it [even if you could fit it] 

There have been some people who have fitted alternative Android type head units though. This guy in Norway posted in 2021:

https://www.berlingoforum.com/thread-21738.html
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Thanks for that

I like to keep upgrades as OEM as possible. The DD units have got to be better than the SD ones surely?

What are the reasons for it not being possible?
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My 2014 has a DD Pioneer unit. And I'm pretty certain these came with a Philips unit as standard?
Anyway, the cubby hole under the stereo is just a 'filler' piece.
Stick your hand in it and make a fist to lock it in, then pull...
Or any other way to get a grip. It's just pushed in.
Now, if you see a flimsy metal sheet with odd cuts in the top of the hole you just made, then that's the bottom of the DIN frame the radio rests in. Anything else and I'm out of my depth...
(Din frames are 5 - 10cm deep and fits snugly around the unit they're securing, and have cutouts to form tabs along the rim. Those tabs are folded out to hook around the edge of the DIN hole in the console. )

So, if you can pry out the cubbyhole and get access to the DIN frame, you know you have a DD hole.

The next step would then be releasing the stereo from the frame. This is done correctly by using a pair of u-shaped tools; one on either edge where you see those holes. Incorrectly it's done by jamming long, thin nails or even bailing wire into those holes in order to unlatch the unit. (You want something that barely fits in the holes, and is somewhat pointy at the ends.) And all 4 holes must be plugged at the same time.

I believe Pioneer at least have adapters and interface boxes that works with the Citroën systems.

Then again, the last car I upgraded the stere on was my 1999 Berlingo, and it had no CAN-bus, no BSI, and not much else. Only thing you had to be careful about was that two of the wires on the ISO connectors for the stereo was supposedly switched around?
(Power and switched power. Something like that. Get it wrong and the setere lost its settings every time you switched off the ignition)

Then there's programming and getting it to talk to everything else in the car...
May need a certain pirated diagnostics tool.

The Reason for a DD is to fit a big screen. Only that. There used to be one or two DDs that had built-in CD changers, but that's a somewhat limited market these days...
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(15-11-2023, 01:55 PM)BER-LINGO Wrote:  I like to keep upgrades as OEM as possible. The DD units have got to be better than the SD ones surely?

Apparently not. I've read reports that the audio output from these is very poor.
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Also screen freezing issues and not being compatible with Android phones. Two more reasons the DD OEM head unit sucks.
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(15-11-2023, 10:26 PM)Sol Wrote:  Also screen freezing issues and not being compatible with Android phones. Two more reasons the DD OEM head unit sucks.

No that doesnt sound good.
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Right ok, so looks like a SD, so recommendations for single din head units then that work with oem features of the car??
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(17-11-2023, 06:28 PM)BER-LINGO Wrote:  Right ok, so looks like a SD, so recommendations for single din head units then that work with oem features of the car??

With regard to OEM features, I'm guessing you mean the steering wheel controls and being able to change the MFD display [time...reset trip etc] ?

With all that in mind the list is is very short................none UNLESS you also buy an connects-2 type adapter that is compatible with the Berlingo [which is an additional £50-60] and wire that in, otherwise there are no 'out of the box' replacement unit solutions that retain the OEM features
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I have had very positive experiences with a modern Android headunit in b9.

My purchase came with complete Berlingo compatible wiring loom, dash adapter frame and CAN-interface. Yes, the headunit reads commands from steering column remote and has the support for the OEM trip computer display. Furthermore, power-on events, reverse gear, parking radar, door open/close state and even steering wheel angle are read from the CAN. Trip computers data is shown as well, but the application for showing it seems almost like an engineering proto and I have not bothered with it. FM frequency is sent to OEM display but RDS information is not shown there.

So the Citroën specific compatibility is at very good level already. What is missing, seems to be the error messages displayed on the OEM display, so replacing the later models double head unit might not be feasible.

This is the HU I bought, Mekede M500S with 4/64GB. Beware, the Android 12 statement is a scam, it is Android 10. Other FYT 7862 based HU’s are recommendable as well, that is the current hot platform.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002514762299.html

Negatives? The dash frame is not the nicest thing but does the job housing a 9” unit in 7” hole. The user experience is far from refined but totally fine as a hobby project. And then there is it being a Chinese product.

Spotify user interface is not really best suitable in dashboard use:
[Image: 3gZFqM0.jpg]

The panel to control the OEM display:
[Image: bbjf11g.png]

Here is the same unit demoed on a Peugeot 308 II: 
https://youtu.be/f_v7OS-VHts?si=fYifwWVucaTLAer8
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