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M49 milage?
#1
Hello all,
Just out of complete curiosity, all those with a first generation belingo specifically with the 1.9D DW8 engines, what is your current mileage? 

My trusty steed has just welcomed its 175k service and still going strong!

Just curious what kind of mileage these sluggish DW8's are capable of when being looked after with regular 5k services.
1999 Mk1 3 door berlingo multispace 1.9d DW8 
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#2
Mine has done 163k, though since 2020 it's been in 'retirement' and now does less than 1k per year.  The oil and filter have always been changed regularly, though before 2020 other work tended to be reactive rather than proactive.

The owner of a local garage that specialises in Citroen says that these are very tough engines - he had one do 300 or 400k, and it was still running when the bodywork fell apart, so he sold the engine to a friend......
Work van:     2020 1.5 BlueHDi 100 Enterprise Berlingo
Spare van:    2001 1.9 600d Berlingo
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(05-01-2024, 08:41 PM)notsofast Wrote:  Mine has done 163k, though since 2020 it's been in 'retirement' and now does less than 1k per year.  The oil and filter have always been changed regularly, though before 2020 other work tended to be reactive rather than proactive.

The owner of a local garage that specialises in Citroen says that these are very tough engines - he had one do 300 or 400k, and it was still running when the bodywork fell apart, so he sold the engine to a friend......

Thanks for the reply! That's definitely reassuring! Thankfully the body work on mine is exceptionally good for its ripe old age of 24 years old as of next month, ridiculously clean underneath and not a hint of the tin worm in sight, fingers crossed!

Hopefully, with regular servicing, she'll be on the road for a few more years to come!
1999 Mk1 3 door berlingo multispace 1.9d DW8 
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#4
Going back quite a few years but we bought one new in 2000, ran it for 14 years and 180000 miles and then traded up to a B9. The M49 was one of the cheapest cars for maintenance that I have ever run. The only unexpected expense was a radiator.

Peter
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#5
A friend of mine had a Peugoet Expert 1.9D with well over 200k on. Must have taken him a while to clock them up, but it sounded fine, just keep changing the oil.
Could be worse.... Could be a Caddy.
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#6
Mine is at 215,000 now. Head gasket at 180,000 not because gasket itself failed but the o ring in the corner perished contaminating the cooling system with oil.
While head was off shimmed the valves.
Bores almost like new and valves / seats hardly needed any grinding in
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(05-01-2024, 07:48 PM)bobothegreat Wrote:  Hello all,
Just out of complete curiosity, all those with a first generation Berlingo specifically with the 1.9D DW8 engines, what is your current mileage? 

My trusty steed has just welcomed its 175k service and still going strong!

Just curious what kind of mileage these sluggish DW8's are capable of when being looked after with regular 5k services.

My first foray into diesel vehicles [which became a necessity due to a long commute] was a Citroen ZX 1.9TD estate which I think is the same engine but with a low pressure turbo added. Bought used with 55K on the clock and sold on a number of years later with 255K on the clock. A great engine and I can honestly say I never had any engine problems with it. I did make sure I changed the oil and filter every 6K though. Nice simple engine to work on.

With the turbo fitted it had the extra power/acceleration with the added bonus of if you really accelerated hard a large cloud of smoke would appear behind you  Wink I lost count of the number of times tailgating vehicles behind me slammed on the brakes as they disappeared in a cloud of diesel smoke as I accelerated away from them [rather childish but I enjoyed it at the time  Wink ]

The only major job on my ZX during my ownership was a new radiator but that was because while driving along the motorway one day a brick fell off a lorry in front of me and bounced up through the front grille and punctured the rad! I think even back then Citroen wanted £300 for a new rad while GSF supplied me with one for £55, even that was a simple change bayonet fittings on the rad pipes.     

Simple vehicles like your M49 Berlingo are definitely the way to go with regards to longevity on both the engine and the rest of the vehicle. The problem being of course no manufacturer really wants you to keep a vehicle going for many years as it doesn't fit their 'business model' to sell us all new vehicles every few years. The other thing that is the killer for old diesel vehicles in the UK is the ever increasing VED, what do you pay on a 1.9D? [£240?]  I think you may find the rest of the vehicle gives up on your M49 before the engine.
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2008 B9 1.6Hdi Multispace XTR
2007 M59 1.6Hdi Multspace Desire
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1996 ZX 1.9TD Estate
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#8
The ZX turbo was based on the old unbreakable XUD engine

Peter
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#9
The DW8 was an evolution from the XUD - according to Wikipedia, it was to reduce emissions. (The DW8 has an EGR. Does the XUD have an EGR?).  My understanding is they're both very tough engines.

The road tax on my M49 last year was £325, so a bit painful (and getting worse every year).
Work van:     2020 1.5 BlueHDi 100 Enterprise Berlingo
Spare van:    2001 1.9 600d Berlingo
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I owned an R registered Berlingo van with the Xud engine. I'm not sure when the multispace first came onto the market but I've never seen one with that engine. If such a combination exists I would be interested in owning one.
Then it would be possible to upgrade it to the Xud turbo and have the 90hp with a very simple diesel engine.
I'm almost certain that the Xud doesn't have the EGR and associated problems, i spent hours removing the black sludge from the inlet manifold on my DW8.
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