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Which Oil?
#1
Hi there,

I have recently bought a Berlingo Blue HDI 75 Diesel Van (2019).

I contacted a number of Citroen dealerships and asked them which oil I should use. One said 5W - 30, another said 0W - 20, and yet another said you can use both. Annoyingly the last service record doesn't state which oil was used and I don't really like mixing different ones.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this matter? Or own the same Van?

Thanks in advance.
Berlingo Blue HDI van, 1.5 diesel, 75 ( Dec 16, 2019)
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#2
I was reading about this on the FCF and someone had posted the data sheet from PsA group,with a listing of all engine variants
It varies from model to model but more from climate to climate.
Mine is a dv6eted and is happy on 5/30 or 0/30 here in the uk

I will try to find that post
It is on my to do list.
But not right at the top

2012 Hdi75 van
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#3
I think the Blue HDi 75 is the 1.5-litre engine, and the oil required by these is either 0W20 or a very specific 5W30 (made only be Total as far as I'm aware). Which oil to use is dependent upon the date of manufacture.  A vehicle made in 2019 is likely to require the 5W30, but to be certain you'd need the VIN.  It's important to get it right, as these engines have a weakness in the form of a camshaft chain, which is lubricated by the engine oil and if not lubricated effectively is more inclined to break and cause major engine damage.  I'd recommend reading the thread linked below in its entirety, to give background info on the issue (and also explain why there might be confusion among dealerships):

https://www.berlingoforum.com/thread-23596.html
Work van:     2020 1.5 BlueHDi 100 Enterprise Berlingo
Spare van:    2001 1.9 600d Berlingo
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#4
this is the reply i ad from total oil

Thank you for your query. As of January 2024, the new product Quartz Ineo RCP 5W-30 was introduced and is recommended for 1.5L Diesel Blue HDi engines on vehicles manufactured between 2017 to 2023. This product holds a new crankcase oil specification (FPW 9.55535-03) and was developed and approved for such models to provide robust protection of the camshaft chain (RCP = Robust chain protection).

For engines manufactured at the end half of 2023, Quartz Ineo Xtra First 0W-20 engine oil is suitable. However, as your vehicle is 2019, the Quarts Ineo RCP 5W-30 product is recommended, which will provide better protection of the camshaft chain.

I hope this clarifies things for you, if you have any further questions please do not hesitate to get in touch.

Many thanks,
Paige
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#5
i ad it serviced on 2nd jan 24 with 0-20 then i got told that to use the new RCP 5W-30 a week later so i changed it to the new RCP stuff found it hard to find to buy bought some from france on Ebay total oils replied with this statement back in january.

I’m afraid that this answer isn’t help you as you want.

The only solution in the UK right now is to go/call to a closest dealership of Stellantis Group- Peugeot, Citroen, Vauxhall… and check if they have this product in stock. If they have it, is only in bulk – 208L barrels, the small packs of 1L and 5L are due to come in the next couple months.



To go and search let’ say to a Factor- 100% I can confirm that you couldn’t find it. All my customers (factors) they do not have access on this product for the moment.

This product is quit new into our Range, and for the moment we have it only on 208L’s for the dealerships.

Is due to come also the smaller units into UK, but will take a little bit more to reach to the Factors and to the end users.
Sorry that I cannot help you more.



Thank you and have a nice day.

Cristian
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#6
(30-05-2024, 08:21 AM)notsofast Wrote:  I think the Blue HDi 75 is the 1.5-litre engine, and the oil required by these is either 0W20 or a very specific 5W30 (made only be Total as far as I'm aware). Which oil to use is dependent upon the date of manufacture.  A vehicle made in 2019 is likely to require the 5W30, but to be certain you'd need the VIN.  It's important to get it right, as these engines have a weakness in the form of a camshaft chain, which is lubricated by the engine oil and if not lubricated effectively is more inclined to break and cause major engine damage.  I'd recommend reading the thread linked below in its entirety, to give background info on the issue (and also explain why there might be confusion among dealerships):

https://www.berlingoforum.com/thread-23596.html

Thanks for this.

FYI, I contacted Citroen Customer care yesterday and they recommended 00W-20 or a 05W-30. I contacted them today and they recommended only 05W-30.

It seems even Citroen don't really know. Not very inspiring to be honest since I still have no clue.
Berlingo Blue HDI van, 1.5 diesel, 75 ( Dec 16, 2019)
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#7
(30-05-2024, 02:10 PM)Climber Wrote:  
(30-05-2024, 08:21 AM)notsofast Wrote:  I think the Blue HDi 75 is the 1.5-litre engine, and the oil required by these is either 0W20 or a very specific 5W30 (made only be Total as far as I'm aware). Which oil to use is dependent upon the date of manufacture.  A vehicle made in 2019 is likely to require the 5W30, but to be certain you'd need the VIN.  It's important to get it right, as these engines have a weakness in the form of a camshaft chain, which is lubricated by the engine oil and if not lubricated effectively is more inclined to break and cause major engine damage.  I'd recommend reading the thread linked below in its entirety, to give background info on the issue (and also explain why there might be confusion among dealerships):

https://www.berlingoforum.com/thread-23596.html

Thanks for this.

FYI, I contacted Citroen Customer care yesterday and they recommended 00W-20 or a 05W-30. I contacted them today and they recommended only 05W-30.

It seems even Citroen don't really know. Not very inspiring to be honest since I still have no clue.

Citroen leeds and wakefield tried selling me the old 05W-30 oil not the new recommended RCP 5W-30 also Citreon leeds and wakefield have seen the email recommending the RCP 5w-30 the man in the service told me but they didn't have any in stock.
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#8
(30-05-2024, 04:40 PM)5EAN Wrote:  
(30-05-2024, 02:10 PM)Climber Wrote:  
(30-05-2024, 08:21 AM)notsofast Wrote:  I think the Blue HDi 75 is the 1.5-litre engine, and the oil required by these is either 0W20 or a very specific 5W30 (made only be Total as far as I'm aware). Which oil to use is dependent upon the date of manufacture.  A vehicle made in 2019 is likely to require the 5W30, but to be certain you'd need the VIN.  It's important to get it right, as these engines have a weakness in the form of a camshaft chain, which is lubricated by the engine oil and if not lubricated effectively is more inclined to break and cause major engine damage.  I'd recommend reading the thread linked below in its entirety, to give background info on the issue (and also explain why there might be confusion among dealerships):

https://www.berlingoforum.com/thread-23596.html

Thanks for this.

FYI, I contacted Citroen Customer care yesterday and they recommended 00W-20 or a 05W-30. I contacted them today and they recommended only 05W-30.

It seems even Citroen don't really know. Not very inspiring to be honest since I still have no clue.

Citroen leeds and wakefield tried selling me the old 05W-30 oil not the new recommended RCP 5W-30 also Citreon leeds and wakefield have seen the email recommending the RCP 5w-30 the man in the service told me but they didn't have any in stock.

Yes, from what I can find out this particular type of oil is not in the country yet, at least not in small enough quantities for customers to buy. Not sure why though. Maybe a Brexit thing slowing the process.
Berlingo Blue HDI van, 1.5 diesel, 75 ( Dec 16, 2019)
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#9
(30-05-2024, 04:40 PM)5EAN Wrote:  
(30-05-2024, 02:10 PM)Climber Wrote:  
(30-05-2024, 08:21 AM)notsofast Wrote:  I think the Blue HDi 75 is the 1.5-litre engine, and the oil required by these is either 0W20 or a very specific 5W30 (made only be Total as far as I'm aware). Which oil to use is dependent upon the date of manufacture.  A vehicle made in 2019 is likely to require the 5W30, but to be certain you'd need the VIN.  It's important to get it right, as these engines have a weakness in the form of a camshaft chain, which is lubricated by the engine oil and if not lubricated effectively is more inclined to break and cause major engine damage.  I'd recommend reading the thread linked below in its entirety, to give background info on the issue (and also explain why there might be confusion among dealerships):

https://www.berlingoforum.com/thread-23596.html

Thanks for this.

FYI, I contacted Citroen Customer care yesterday and they recommended 00W-20 or a 05W-30. I contacted them today and they recommended only 05W-30.

It seems even Citroen don't really know. Not very inspiring to be honest since I still have no clue.

Citroen leeds and wakefield tried selling me the old 05W-30 oil not the new recommended RCP 5W-30 also Citreon leeds and wakefield have seen the email recommending the RCP 5w-30 the man in the service told me but they didn't have any in stock.

Yes, from what I can find out this particular type of oil is not in the country yet, at least not in small enough quantities for customers to buy. Not sure why though. Maybe a Brexit thing slowing the process. I would imagine anyone who has had their van serviced recently will have the old 05W-30 put in.
Berlingo Blue HDI van, 1.5 diesel, 75 ( Dec 16, 2019)
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#10
The hold up is with total and there supplier of 1l and 5l bottling and packaging.
Essentially they haven’t had the new labelling completed, hence it’s only available in large drums for now.
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