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Longevity of vehicle.
#1
My Partner/Berlingo  van is 07 reg and diesel . I got it in 2011 and it had 12k on the clock . 
I love this little van and it's never let me down and I've treated it very well, it's also an occasional "Micro camper" . 
But the years are racing by and I realise it's quite old now. 
However I'm loathe to let it go , it's done 48k and I've kept up with maintenance. 

There's nothing wrong with it , it's as though I just got it. 

So, I'm wondering if another ten years is feasible if I spend on it ? I'm looking at EVs but my hearts not in it and I don't want one. I would rather spend to keep this van going.

I would be grateful to hear other opinions ?
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#2
Mine's a 2010 Model - NO DPF, NO Add Blue, NO Stop Start - WONDERFUL - far less to go wrong and I intend to keep it going for as long as possible even if that does mean spending some money in order to do so. Better the devil you know than the one you don't and I see no reason why it should not continue, providing it is regularly maintained.
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#3
Well, 48k is nothing really. It sounds like stuff will breakdown due to age like oil seals, fluids etc rather than overuse.
Stick with it.
Now a 2019 K9 1.2 petrol.
Before a 2010 B9 1.6 HDi diesel.
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(30-09-2024, 06:24 PM)Daveyboy Wrote:  Mine's a 2010 Model - NO DPF, NO Add Blue, NO Stop Start - WONDERFUL - far less to go wrong and I intend to keep it going for as long as possible even if that does mean spending some money in order to do so. Better the devil you know than the one you don't and I see no reason why it should not continue, providing it is regularly maintained.

Id expect to be able to double that mileage but it's age degradation you'll be up against.
Just keep up with preventative maintenance and enjoy your van .
It is on my to do list.
But not right at the top

2012 Hdi75 van
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#5
My old Berlingo was a 1999 MultiSpace, Red, with the 1.4i.
It had nearly 400K Kilometers on the clock when I had to take it out back and give it mercy last summer.
What got mine was probably the E10 Gasoline. (The 1.4i of that year is not supposed to run E10, but when the alternative is E5 98Octane, at nearly £0.15 more per Liter, and there's only one gas station in the area that sells it... )

Sure, I swapped the old Rear axle when one of the torque rods broke, I rebuilt the rear brakes and did a bit of rust preventative here and there, the sun roof(the big fabric roof) didn't work, the remote for the Central locking had gone through the washer/dryer, only one door lock worked, and the front windshield was so scratched that it was like driving through a glamour shot in low sun...
Other than that it was still good.

But with an engine that didn't idle, and overheated in 30 minutes, yeah, it was time.
(Getting good pre-2000 donor engines can be a faff, and replacing it is a real pain in the posterior. trust me. I've done it)

My 2014 Berlingo electrique had 112K on the speedo when I bought it afterwards now show 128K, and is just as fun to drive, but maybe not for the same distances.

48K on a Diesel?
Sounds as if it is barely broken in. Probably still has the 'new engine' smell...
(mostly burnt dust that got in through the grille. 'Used engine' smell has a bit of an oily tang to it)
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#6
Just the replies I hoped for !! It confirms what I suspected such as age decay but apart from that , a credible plan to keep it running . Relief !
I would rather spend money on what I know and care for rather than what I'm being talked into with a EV
Many thanks to all who replied I appreciate your thoughts and help.
I think next step will be to consider WaxOyl under seal etc and new parts replacing ageing ones.
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#7
I have a 2004 Peugeot Partner Escapade, bought with 83k miles now on 115k.

I keep cars as long as possible - the only reason I'd sell is if it no longer serves its original purpose.

Mine is pumped full and thoroughly coated in Dinitrol and Bilt Hamber wax and coatings (forget Waxoyl - it's crap nowadays) - especially the sills. I also make sure the drains are always clear on them as well to let any water out.

I did find a rust scab on the inside of the front chassis leg up behind the arch liner, I ground this back and coated it in Jotun epoxy mastic.

I've changed all the front end suspension and steering consumables including springs, top strut mounts etc, all new brake components front and rear, as well as alternator, timing belt + water pump, crank pulley + idlers, and a couple of CV boots.

Use decent branded parts from Autodoc (Valeo, Corteco, elring etc etc), keep on top of any issues and be proactive with maintenance and there's no reason why the car wont carry on for many more years to come.




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2004 Peugeot Escapade 2.0HDI. 115k miles
2004 Volvo V70 2.4  208k miles
2011 Volvo XC90 215k miles
2005 Porsche Cayenne 170k miles
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#8
"What got mine was probably the E10 Gasoline." - my 2019 K9 can run on E10 but twice it's had problems because of it and on the second time the dealer/service agent said give up on it and put proper petrol in it.
Now a 2019 K9 1.2 petrol.
Before a 2010 B9 1.6 HDi diesel.
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#9
Thanx for the hints And tips ....this is just what I need regarding preventative and replacing and thanx for the photos too.....good to see how you have tackled the issues.
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#10
(02-10-2024, 01:34 PM)Bluebottle Wrote:  Thanx for the hints And tips ....this is just what I need regarding preventative and replacing and thanx for the photos too.....good to see how you have tackled the issues.

You haven't mentioned what engine you vehicle has. From the year, if one of the diesels then it's either going to be the 1.9D or the 2.0Hdi [or maybe a 1.6HDi?]

Both are good engines and as long as you give them regular oil changes [6,000 or one year recommended on the 1.9D] and personally I used to do that for my 2.0Hdi and 1.6Hdi engines as well. They can go on and rack up massive miles.

I posted a link a while back to someone who had just racked up 500,000 miles in their 2.0Hdi Citroen Xsara Picasso

https://www.berlingoforum.com/thread-23608.html

Like most things if you do regular maintenance and fix problems when they first appear, there's no reason why you cannot keep a vehicle going almost indefinitely, as long as you can still get parts. The thing with the Berlingo and Partner of your era, they used a lot of bits from other PSA group vehicles, so that shouldn't be a problem. 

I personally liked my 2007 M59 1.6Hdi Multispace the most out of all my Citroens and probably would still have it now, if someone hadn't driven into the back of me and written it off.
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