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Centre brake light warning - 2020 Berlingo
#1
Hello folks, 

First off - Happy New Year  Smile

Switched on today and had the "spanner" light  with a warning to check the centre brake light. 

Light checked and, sure enough, it wasn't working. The other brake lights are fine. 

I looks like there are two screws at the top of the rear door. I assume they are part of the light. 

Is there a bulb or does the entire unit have tp be replaced?

Searching for "central brake light" online I get links to ebay showing the whole unit. 

Any suggestions?

Thanks 

d**k
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#2
Loosen the two screws and take out the brake light.

In my experience of central brake lights on other vehicles they normally have a few bulbs in them but the images I'm seeing for a 2020 Berlingo show just the one bulb, it could just be the bulb has blown.

Report your findings.

Cheers.


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My vehicle .... 2006 (m59) Berlingo Multispace Desire - 1.6 HDI 92 
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#3
Thanks, I will check that out and report back.
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#4
It looks like a single bulb but I can't work out how to get to it. I'd need very very thin and strong fingers! 

See photo below

I tried your suggestion of taking the unit out.  I removed the two retaining nuts inside the door but it won't move. 

Maybe it needs more force but I'm reluctant to push it too much. 

Any ideas? 

Thanks
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#5
Bulb - too deep in frame to get to easily


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#6
The centre brake light can be tight so difficult to get out, when I have removed them in the past you do feel like you're going to break something.

The bulb is a wedge type / push fit,  if you can't get your fingers in to pull it out you could try feeding some tape around the bulb and maybe this will help in pulling it out.

I would try to pull it out with a pair of needle nose pliers, wrap the ends with an elastic band so the pliers will grip the bulb, hold the bulb gently but firmly as near to the base as you can and wiggle it as you move it forward. 

Putting the bulb back in.... either use the pliers or stick a piece of tape to the bulb to help you line it up then push on the tip to send it into the holder with a flat object of your choice.

If using tape remember the tape will have to be removed so bear this in mind when applying it! 


Cheers.
My vehicle .... 2006 (m59) Berlingo Multispace Desire - 1.6 HDI 92 
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#7
Thanks,  I tried the long nose pliers but I can't get enough purchase on it and I'm still worried about breaking it and making it even more difficult to get out.  

I'll try getting the unit out again. There's a kind of small "button" on the left of the lens. It doesn't seem to move and I wonder what it does.

If I can't sort it I'll have to take it to the garage round the corner and accept it's going to cost .

Seems ridiculous to just replace a bulb though  Sad

Is it an MOT failure?  

Thanks for your help.
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#8
Why don't you get the whole cluster out? Very easy.
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#9
I tried to get the whole cluster out but couldn't. 

I undid the the two plastic bolts that look like they hold it in place but it won't move and I don't want to force it. 

Am I missing something obvious?
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#10
I get what you're saying about the long nose pliers, if you position the legs of the pliers at the base of the bulb and rock the pliers from side to side (twisting your hand left & right) the jaws of the pliers may ease the bulb out.

Not sure about the little button on the left of the lens.

Have you tried with sticky tape around the bulb, holding the tails of the tape you could maybe pull the bulb forward out of the socket.

I don't think the central brake light is an MOT failure, but maybe that depends on the tester.

Central brake lights often have a neoprene type gasket between the light and the body and this gets a good hold, you would think the light was bonded in place with some of them.

Cheers.
My vehicle .... 2006 (m59) Berlingo Multispace Desire - 1.6 HDI 92 
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