Unless it looks better in the flesh, I prefer the present version, but it might grow on me.

(02-02-2012, 07:50 PM)pch Wrote:  does the reduced co2 make any difference to tax on these? The lights are strange me thinks but then again maybe these are really sealed units...I got a big dead fly inside one of mine, cant wait till next service to ask em how can a fly get into a sealed unit?

Not a jot afaics

tax band is from 130 to 139

airdream stays at 125

all non airdream diesels were 139, now 75 and 90hp are down to 135

100hp stays at 139 but power up to 115hp

That is not to say at some later date the tax bands may not be tweaked to give a cost advantage to <135

Couple more pics of interior.........

[Image: MN6aP.jpg]

[Image: ap17H.jpg]

.....nothing much new there,apart from upholstery colour.

Got to agree with others who prefer current design - less individual looking and too fussy front end styling on this new model. why bother with the extra cost of this minor makeover?

Like the integrated SatNav, but wish they had relocated / adjusted the very badly placed seat belt clips on XTR three rear seat version, and improved the middle seat seat belt ( fixed to rear of seat maybe ?)

(05-02-2012, 08:26 PM)scotsron Wrote:  Got to agree with others who prefer current design - less individual looking and too fussy front end styling on this new model. why bother with the extra cost of this minor makeover?

I agree,the present model XTR has a distictive,almost rugged look at the front.Whereas this new XTR looks exactly like the present Tepee.

(05-02-2012, 07:07 PM)XTR Wrote:  Couple more pics of interior.........

[Image: MN6aP.jpg]

[Image: ap17H.jpg]

.....nothing much new there,apart from upholstery colour.

In the first interior shot it doesn't show the gear lever; can we assume its the semi-auto egs6?

The lh can holder has a dial inserted. If this is traction control this is a combination currently not offered. What else could it be?

OTOH it could just be a mock up or photoshop job, what do you think?

The circular control is the controls for semi auto gearbox, plus you get the paddleshifts on steering wheel.

(06-02-2012, 07:49 AM)XTR Wrote:  

(05-02-2012, 08:26 PM)scotsron Wrote:  Got to agree with others who prefer current design - less individual looking and too fussy front end styling on this new model. why bother with the extra cost of this minor makeover?

I agree,the present model XTR has a distictive,almost rugged look at the front.Whereas this new XTR looks exactly like the present Tepee.

Thinking about this you may have the answer - a rationalisation of design so that Tepee and Berlingo have minimum variation between the 2 models which would save manufacturing costs on the same production line-grille/badging being the only difference - is there a picture of a revised Tepee I wonder?

(06-02-2012, 05:14 PM)scotsron Wrote:  

(06-02-2012, 07:49 AM)XTR Wrote:  

(05-02-2012, 08:26 PM)scotsron Wrote:  Got to agree with others who prefer current design - less individual looking and too fussy front end styling on this new model. why bother with the extra cost of this minor makeover?

I agree,the present model XTR has a distictive,almost rugged look at the front.Whereas this new XTR looks exactly like the present Tepee.

Thinking about this you may have the answer - a rationalisation of design so that Tepee and Berlingo have minimum variation between the 2 models which would save manufacturing costs on the same production line-grille/badging being the only difference - is there a picture of a revised Tepee I wonder?

Here you go...........
[Image: YhV9f.png]
[Image: lIFRH.jpg]
[Image: sPCoS.jpg]

.........virtually identical,you'd be hard pressed to tell them apart