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Why is this bit always missing?
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Why does this airduct always go missing on Berlingo's/Partners?
Ive seen it before, but now I just started thinking about it again as it was missing on my new van as well.

I thought it might have something to do with performance as the original airintake is very small and restrictive, but I just installed an airduct I found at a junkyard and so far driving arround I dont notice anything different. Besides that, if it would make such a impact, im sure PSA wouldnt have bothered installing the duct in the first place.


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Its usually due to ham fisted service techs and monkeys dont look how it comes apart and just twist and pull it away not realising there is a screw holding it in place. Loads of things like this get bodged by incompetent idiots over the years on when they dont take the time to work out how things come apart.
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(14-09-2020, 06:18 AM)Tomcat3 Wrote:  Its usually due to ham fisted service techs and monkeys dont look how it comes apart and just twist and pull it away not realising there is a screw holding it in place. Loads of things like this get bodged by incompetent idiots over the years on when they dont take the time to work out how things come apart.

Well put!
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Lol okay, so that also explains why it was easier to replace the entire airbox instead of trying to remove the screws wich got tarfu by some muppet
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i will be honest I've have noticed this my self and being and apprentice mechanic i have been guilty of this my self and felt like a right t**t when braking it. They can be a bit of a bugger to get off as the newer design is simply held in by 2 plastic clips on the pipe it connects to. But i feel the issue with the older design is that you don't really see the screw until 1. you brake the pipe or 2 you have shouted and swore for 10 minutes trying to get the dam thing off... Its easy when you know.
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(14-09-2020, 07:15 AM)saskak Wrote:  
(14-09-2020, 06:18 AM)Tomcat3 Wrote:  Its usually due to ham fisted service techs and monkeys dont look how it comes apart and just twist and pull it away not realising there is a screw holding it in place. Loads of things like this get bodged by incompetent idiots over the years on when they dont take the time to work out how things come apart.

Well put!

Yep, I will add to that, also the part is crap and often splits there so that you need a big washer under the screw head. 

The reason it is there is so that your enginge draws in cold air which is more dense and improves performance (not an issue on my 1.9D but it also stops any dust or rubbish getting dropped inneccesarily into the air filter.  It may help protect you if you drive through a deep puddle if water is thrown up.

One of my pals bought a new maestro diesel van when they first came out for his business.  AR in their wisdom they fitted the air intake low down at the front.  he drove through a puddle and haydraulicked the engine, it had only done about 500 miles.  Result AR gave him a new van as they couldnt supply a replacement engine but they moved the air intake to the top of the grill immediately.

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The Renault Espace was known for that. Any puddle deeper that 9 inches and it was new engine time!
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(08-11-2020, 07:59 AM)Romahomepete Wrote:  
(14-09-2020, 07:15 AM)saskak Wrote:  
(14-09-2020, 06:18 AM)Tomcat3 Wrote:  Its usually due to ham fisted service techs and monkeys dont look how it comes apart and just twist and pull it away not realising there is a screw holding it in place. Loads of things like this get bodged by incompetent idiots over the years on when they dont take the time to work out how things come apart.

Well put!

Yep, I will add to that, also the part is crap and often splits there so that you need a big washer under the screw head. 

The reason it is there is so that your enginge draws in cold air which is more dense and improves performance (not an issue on my 1.9D but it also stops any dust or rubbish getting dropped inneccesarily into the air filter.  It may help protect you if you drive through a deep puddle if water is thrown up.

One of my pals bought a new maestro diesel van when they first came out for his business.  AR in their wisdom they fitted the air intake low down at the front.  he drove through a puddle and haydraulicked the engine, it had only done about 500 miles.  Result AR gave him a new van as they couldnt supply a replacement engine but they moved the air intake to the top of the grill immediately.

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Nah the part is made up out of two pieces that lock together. As long as you dont go "over 9000" and be gentle when tighting the screw its not gonna break.
I know its intended purpose, but its propably not making much of a difference on our oldschool PSA engines. Id say water and dust intake isnt a concern sinds then it would have to get into the airbox and through the filter first. Thats not driving through a puddle but wading a river.

(08-11-2020, 09:00 AM)Pedronicus Wrote:  The Renault Espace was known for that. Any puddle deeper that 9 inches and it was new engine time!

9 inches (or near 22cm for me) would be about the deepest id expect a normal vehicle to go anyways.
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